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4Vman
2nd February 2018, 07:58 AM
It all starts again.

HSE2
2nd February 2018, 10:24 AM
With out grid girls. The racing will be so much better now.

TS50
2nd February 2018, 09:13 PM
With out grid girls. The racing will be so much better now.

well lets see
cars that sound shit
no grid girls
no free to air
man they really are making F1 more and more attractive

FTe217
2nd February 2018, 09:38 PM
LOL, oh happy days - this is going forward I guess ;)

andrewforbes
4th February 2018, 12:30 AM
No grid girls is a crime against humanity, I really don't see the problem

4Vman
19th February 2018, 07:54 PM
2018 Redbull temporary livery:

https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/redbullrb14/image/dc7c8120b3ff3d4aecb295f7904f3ec8-4

FTe217
19th February 2018, 08:10 PM
the matt finish continues.
Not bad but so under stated but it is temp.

FTe217
20th February 2018, 08:34 AM
Just don't know what to expect this season but I'll be watching.
I do like seeing some grand ol marques back in the lime light but no where near as once were.
Aston Martin on the RB's.
Alfa Romeo with Sauber.
I'll be curious how the 2 Ferrrari customer teams go especially Haas, I think they are going to be strong.
Wonder how Torro Rosso go with the Hondas and kiwi Hartley.
Force India should be stronger.
I hope the young guns Max, Sainz really get up there consistently this season.
One wonders how the Williams development squad turn out.
The 2 main suspects we know whats to come, brat will be hard to beat once again.

Perko
20th February 2018, 08:39 AM
2018 Redbull temporary livery:

https://d24ftq11lp1zg6.cloudfront.net/hrs.php/dir/redbullrb14/image/dc7c8120b3ff3d4aecb295f7904f3ec8-4

Love it!!

FTe217
25th February 2018, 08:49 PM
Been talk for a while but here's the latest : http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/16046257.Ferrari_could_lead_breakaway_series_to_ri val_F

TS50
27th February 2018, 07:37 PM
Been talk for a while but here's the latest : http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/16046257.Ferrari_could_lead_breakaway_series_to_ri val_F
Wow, never heard this one before - Ferrarri to leave F1 and join a breakaway series

Isnt this story out every year?

TS50
27th February 2018, 07:45 PM
Barcelona Test One, Day One Timesheet
Driver Team Laps Fastest Time Tyre
Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 105 1:20.179 Mediums
Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 58 1:20.349 Mediums
Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 80 1:20.506 Softs
Nico Hulkenberg Renault 73 1:20.547 Mediums
Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso 26 1:22.168 Softs
Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 25 1.22.327 Mediums
Fernando Alonso McLaren 51 1:22.354 Supersofts
Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso 93 1:22.371 Softs
Lance Stroll Williams 46 1:22.452 Softs
Romain Grosjean Haas 55 1:22.578 Softs
Marcus Ericsson Sauber 63 1:23.408 Softs
Nikita Mazepin Force India 22 1:25.628 Mediums
Sergey Sirotkin Williams 28 1:44.148 Softs

FTe217
28th February 2018, 10:14 AM
yer I know Slow.
I just wish they would do it, I'm having concerns what Liberty have in store in the future being americans.
Damn those halos with take some getting used to.
Yes the new SF-71H looks very noice ! but needs to win more races this season and no brain farts from pettel.
Please Kimi drove over them all this season.
Cold as usual so tyres hard to get to temp, midday I think these times.

Barcelona Test One, Day Two Timesheet
Driver Team Laps Tyre Fastest Time
Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 98 Softs 1:19.673
Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 94 Mediums 1:19.976
Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren 37 Hypersofts 1:20.325
Max Verstappen Red Bull 67 Mediums 1:20.326
Carlos Sainz Renault 65 Softs 1:21.212
Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso 82 Softs 1:21.318
Robert Kubica Williams 48 Softs 1:21.495
Sergey Sirotkin Williams 52 Softs 1:21.822
Esteban Ocon Force India 79 Softs 1:21.841
Charles Leclerc Sauber 81 Softs 1:22.721
Kevin Magnussen Haas 36 Softs 1:22.727

TS50
3rd March 2018, 04:34 PM
another ho-hum year?
https://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/motorsport/1803/Mercedes-crushes-F1-opposition-in-first-pre-season-test

IF YOU were planning to bet against Mercedes-AMG scoring a fifth-straight Formula 1 drivers’ and constructors’ championship in 2018 you might want to reconsider in light of the first week of testing at Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya in Spain.

Defending champion Lewis Hamilton sailed to the top of the timesheets in the afternoon of the final day, with a 1:19.333 lap.

Hamilton’s time was half a second quicker than anyone else, and nine-tenths of a second quicker than third-fastest Sebastian Vettel’s best time.

FTe217
5th March 2018, 09:00 AM
yep, the dominance will continue.
I can't see the Reds nor RB going race to race with them.

Elks
7th March 2018, 06:09 PM
Great little video 2017 vs 2018 Mercedes

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/03/07/video-mercedes-compares-2017-2018-cars/

FTe217
10th March 2018, 08:43 AM
I was pretty rapt DR ended up with a top time the other day but to then see pettel smash that time next by a second was interesting.
Next day Kimi was cranking top times.
Haas even ticked over some good ones.
Just as Adelaide last week lets see where they all stand to some degree come Melb.
My interest is increasing as it nears.

HSE2
14th March 2018, 08:17 AM
Hard to work out where they all are except Mercedes weren’t trying.

Looking forward to the season start if only it last for the one race

FTe217
14th March 2018, 11:10 AM
Wow, never heard this one before - Ferrarri to leave F1 and join a breakaway series

Isnt this story out every year?

You know what Slow, yep the Italian leveage has always been huge in F1, why not imo, they have tipped in the series forever and a day same for some of the other stalwarts still around be it renamed guise's,splits ala MB from Mclaren for eg But I tell you what, if there is one thing that really irritates Euro's, is the american's now owning the show.
The ramblings this time will be real behind closed doors not just with Ferrari.
I've listened to Horner over the last season being very careful in his wording/comments of the new regime and he's being very coy making sure not to rock the boat in the hope they "listen" to whats really important to the Euro's how their product pedigree goes to market and rules in the future.
If they turn any part of the game in any way towards americano style all hell will break out.
Yes dummy spits, be it Ferrari or otherwise.
This game is not a show how americans are used to being entertained, Euros see yanks with no class but all arse.
There will be alot of lobbying going on this season on F1's future.

Paxton
23rd March 2018, 11:00 AM
Those halos look fucking terrible.

FTe217
23rd March 2018, 04:15 PM
Previous issue of Auto Action had a good interview with Prost.
He quoted some good comparisons of yesterdays drivers to today.
Watching the cars right now circulating, the halo looks as if it should be on a amusement park ride.

HSE2
24th March 2018, 07:35 AM
I didn’t think that cars looked too bad. I even thought the sound was ok.

Dan hit with a 3 grid place penalty for not slowing enough after red flag

FTe217
24th March 2018, 04:10 PM
yer look getting used to the halo but whatever.
Bring on quali1.

FTe217
24th March 2018, 04:45 PM
I just can't fathom a driver of Alonso's ability eliminated at quali.
This is todays F1.
Back in the day with less tech a driver of his ability would have driven over the cars short comings and you'd be amazed knowing that outcome.
The short comings today is purely budget/motor.
Throw him in the MB,Ferrari RB he'd be up there.

FTe217
24th March 2018, 05:12 PM
Prosty would be happy seeing his 2 cars up there.
God damn the Ferrari's look so good.
OK RB's lets see what you got now, DR you better get over your team mate.
Its on.
prat 1.21.1 friggin p.
Ferrari 2-3.
Like seeing Kimi he's going hard, out did pettel.

VZTRT
25th March 2018, 08:05 AM
Looks like more of the same boring f1 racing to come. I hope this improves.

Paxton
25th March 2018, 03:53 PM
Poor Haas. Both cars wiped out.

Great at driving by Raikkonen.

Better driving by Dan. Love F1. Best thing is Foxtel doesn’t have ads this year. Sky’s coverage is again brilliant.

We have a race. Go Vettel.

FTe217
25th March 2018, 07:40 PM
Well the heartbreak didn't occur the 1st race and how sweet it is :)
Forza to the scarletts - this will do me for starters.
The pain will come for sure like in any sport but for now its a sweet 1-3.

HSE2
27th March 2018, 08:51 AM
I enjoyed the race but it is a two horse race for now

FTe217
9th April 2018, 12:07 PM
The heartbreak once again has been put on hold.
Pettel winner !
OMG have you seen the Kimi replays regards one of his machanic's still having his leg in front of the back wheel as Kimi sped off suffering a broken fibia - owwwwwwwwwwwwww.
He's ok thankfully but the error ruined Kimi being on the podium.
Funny race overall - loving it brat and Max having a clash, microphones picking up Max is a DH and pettel intervenes in the post race interviews lol.....
Keep it up Max on brat please.

HSE2
10th April 2018, 12:34 PM
awesome


https://youtu.be/aAR-_loNDeU

FTe217
10th April 2018, 03:15 PM
I couldn't believe pettel stepping in at the time.

Paxton
16th April 2018, 06:31 AM
So yeah, that happened...

Great drive by Dan. Red Bull were very lucky with team position when the Safety Car was called, and Ferrari were caught napping. Hamilton had a great radio call - "are there guys behind me with fresher tyres"?

It goes to show that when Mercedes are dominant, they are dominant. When they are not, and the cracks start to show, they look a little like a house of cards.

Neither Raikonnen or Bottas looked happy to be on that podium or the press conference after.

I am sure my neighbours could hear me yelling when Dan took the lead.

FTe217
16th April 2018, 10:18 AM
yer what a different 2days re this GP.
Loving it that MB are having difficulties at this stage - I'm sure they will overcome them But yes Pax when it gets pear shaped they have trouble stabilising their situation.
When Ferrari can put them under pressure as shown last 2 races they are not the same.
Shame for Kimi, to stomach pettel grabbing pole by the slimmest margin to then have pettel squeeze him at the start to first corner he would have been fuming, I know I would have.
pettel needs to worry about the others not his own team mate.
Bloody Max once again lol.....
Very happy for DR !
His dive bombs are wonderful to see.
Even though F1 is overcoming many hurdles it threw up a good show this race.

TS50
16th April 2018, 07:06 PM
DR is awesome
great to see the pratt go nowhere
then seb, that was hilarious

the bitch bit back

4Vman
18th April 2018, 01:26 PM
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HSE2
30th April 2018, 12:00 AM
Crazy race. Who was at fault do you think?

FTe217
30th April 2018, 09:48 AM
Max had every right to shift left defending his line But he also would have seen DR coming up fast behind him as well.
Defending the line and corner entry.
IMO DR knowing how Max reacts/behaves for sometime I feel should have backed off some in the thought I'll get him next time - get closer gaining earlier slip stream so as in getting by earlier than late down the straight.
Either way IT could have been avoided.

Elks
30th April 2018, 01:16 PM
Crazy race. Who was at fault do you think?

1/4 Danny Ric
1/4 Max Versmashem
2/4 the team

After 40+ laps of max being an obstructionist pratt, including max deliberately steering into him, I understand why Dan had a bit of the red mist going. I was watching on TV and I wanted to punt Max into a wall.

The team should have been more firm with Max. Dan was genuinely quicker and while a long shot, he had chance at a podium so the team should have ordered Max to let him pass and stop holding him up for the sake if the team. Max is notorious for his reckless blocking, Dan famous for his last minute dives. In the end that crash was inevitable. Watching Adrian Newy drop his headphones and walk off. All I could think was "Seriously!, what did you think was going to happen".

HSE2
30th April 2018, 02:37 PM
This is one of those situations where enough has already transpired in the race for this outcome to be predictable.

The crash is Dan's fault. The other contact was Max's fault and the person most at fault is Honer.

The instruction should have been zero contact zero risk.

FTe217
30th April 2018, 03:15 PM
No matter what Horner should have could have done/said it is still his drivers fault IMO full stop and more so DR.
I have watched 2 guys as good and better than these 2 at their peak in Slows fav team Williams.
Piquet Mansell - now even these 2 could be and more so loose cannons than Max and recall many of their stoushs whilst 1 and 2 on the track not for 4th as this was and Dan's mist/ego even got the better of him this time.
Sure, I don't blame him having a go but not then, he fucked up this time.

Elks
30th April 2018, 04:56 PM
except Versmashem has history.

He's had this with Valetri, Kimi, Lewis, Dan, Fernando, and i'm sure others. It would be like being hit by Tander or getting a bump and run by Whincup, yes you can blame the other party but there is a constant there and in this case it's Max. He's now 3 years into the big time and paid millions. He should know better.

FTe217
30th April 2018, 08:17 PM
yer nupe.
There used to be a DeCrashceris - a Mansell was a complete right off for yonks, crashs into others and his own countless brain fades,screwed other drivers up.
There are others like Max that never end knowing better BUT the passing driver needs to always be aware aware aware aware and DR should know better than them all at present.

HSE2
4th May 2018, 03:09 PM
No matter what Horner should have could have done/said it is still his drivers fault IMO full stop and more so DR.
I have watched 2 guys as good and better than these 2 at their peak in Slows fav team Williams.
Piquet Mansell - now even these 2 could be and more so loose cannons than Max and recall many of their stoushs whilst 1 and 2 on the track not for 4th as this was and Dan's mist/ego even got the better of him this time.
Sure, I don't blame him having a go but not then, he fucked up this time.

The problem isn’t what happened on track, it’s what came next.

Horner can’t then turn around and say, these two need to front 800 people and apologise.

That is his purview.

It was a situation building all race. Only those sitting outside the situation can have that perspective. The drivers, they need to see the footage to see what they have done.

The teams have those replays and should have made it crystal clear to both they were crossing the line.

Now as it turns out Horner is claiming they were warned so if so, that’s fair enough.

There is no good as team managers sitting back hoping for the best. Be proactive and manage. If they don’t play ball, sack them.

FTe217
4th May 2018, 08:32 PM
Horner is Horner, agree, he's blaming to cover his failure I suppose still DR knew he was playing with fire, should have been more patient, I know thats hard after many laps but he risked, went for it paid the price.

HSE2
5th May 2018, 02:44 PM
Horner is Horner, agree, he's blaming to cover his failure I suppose still DR knew he was playing with fire, should have been more patient, I know thats hard after many laps but he risked, went for it paid the price.

It’s an interesting one. Those who are siding with Max being at fault are looking at what he has achieved thus far with crashes. On balance Max pushes to far and with his team mate he shouldn’t have been moving like he was but that’s called racing and that’s what they were allowed to do.

I think there needed to be a calming voice in their ear to remind them they were already on the limit. It’s a team sport so act like a team.

While Max did move, I don’t believe it was enough to cause what happened here unless he brake checked Dan.

You just can’t drive up the arse of someone and start pointing fingers.

FTe217
6th May 2018, 12:04 AM
Possibly that may explain Horners reaction upon the incident just dropping his muffs walking off, maybe he had warned them a few times or at least once, who knows.
Team mates are always the worst to compete against.
Max, sure could have opened the door more but also he doesn't Have to, not unless he's really told as so by Horner but he keeps saying we encourage them racing but yeryer do it nicely.
Well, Max isn't nice he's aggressive.
Once that helmut is on everyone is his enemy for the record stands.
Hence why I keep saying, DR knows who's he's dealing with, he needs to be smarter for he has to be.

HSE2
27th May 2018, 10:08 PM
Brilliant pole by Dan.

Shame for Max, pressure building


And what is it about being red? Must that colour always cheat?

Looks like Ferrari have been cheating with their engines.

Oh dear

HSE2
28th May 2018, 07:25 AM
https://youtu.be/vCenhaX4Vog

HSE2
28th May 2018, 08:04 AM
Watched all the race. I thought it was over when the interval margin got down to .6

Dan wasn’t on screen at the time, so I was thinking he had an off or something.

Then on screen they came. The radio call, I am losing power.

I thought it was over.

When you hear what he had to do to manage the situation, what a way to win your first Monaco GP.

One can only imagine his stock has increased a lot.

FTe217
28th May 2018, 09:04 AM
yer, well in DR, thoroughly deserved and lucky the box held together !
From pole your int he box seat at Monaco and lucky his team mate started from the rear.

bah hum bug re the Reds :)

HSE2
28th May 2018, 10:31 AM
Thoughts on them cheating pricks?

4Vman
28th May 2018, 10:39 AM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/motorsport/6372334/ferarri-cars-illegal-power-boost-system/



FERRARI are at the centre of a Monaco “cheat” storm.

Rival teams believe the Italian outfit may have an illegal power boost system on their cars.



The sport’s governing body, the FIA, has ordered Ferrari to fit additional computer hardware for the Monaco Grand Prix to prevent any illegal use of F1’s Energy Recovery System



Rub them out.

HSE2
28th May 2018, 10:49 AM
What they said on the telecast.

Seems like an employee has left Ferrari and moved to another team.

That team has asked the sport to look at what Ferrari was doing.

The way they harvest energy is different to anyone else so the programming didn’t make sense. Thevsport has their own engine program expert so they didn’t need to consult with anyone else.

After more discussion with Ferrari, a call was made to change the software.

This implies that up till now they were doing something they shouldn’t have been and the fact nothing is being done was presented as a sweet heart deal.


Now it’s not cheating, it’s just F1 pushing the intention of the rules to breaking point.

I am only stirring M

FTe217
28th May 2018, 11:14 AM
LOL, I knew you were, Norm just goes and does a search for the heck LOL......
It was passed days ago mate, that paper bag filled with cash still works LOL....

HSE2
4th June 2018, 05:45 PM
I think one of the things that came from the last race and win was how much RB appreciate Dan.

Over the years we have tended to rag on RB and Horner, but I think what we saw was real.

Two minds on where I want to see him end up.

Paxton
4th June 2018, 08:15 PM
I think one of the things that came from the last race and win was how much RB appreciate Dan.

Over the years we have tended to rag on RB and Horner, but I think what we saw was real.

Two minds on where I want to see him end up.

I think you're right. They love Max, but he is too much of a hot head due to his youth, and his 'win it or bin it' attitude isn't winning him any favours. Bet the RB employees would rather work for Dan (who has won two races off his own back) than Max, whose crew seems to be continually re-building his car. Kvyat didn't have this many lives...

I hope he stays where he is, and gets paid properly for it. Christian Horner really likes him, and that shows.

I feel for Williams at the moment though. Stroll is as useless as a chocolate teapot, and I haven't heard boo from the Russian. Should they have gone with Kubica (my heart says yes). If it wasn't for Stroll and the Russian's money, I wonder if Massa would have been convinced to stay, and Kubica in the other seat?

FTe217
4th June 2018, 11:43 PM
I think the Max situation has them finally seeing that DR is their true no1 but its taken them a long time to come around that myself as the driver would remind CH regards a contract upgrade..but still consider another option as well.
In saying that at a later time I still can see Max becoming A driver.

Interesting bratt is holding out MB re signing.
Kimi has thrown out to the press he's keen for a contract extension.

Poor Williams alright, they have given in to whoever comes around with some much needed dollars.
They are driving their brand down down.....
They need to get a package working and entice a class driver to test it and if its competitive give him what he wants.
Running MB engines is great But they will never be an equal as per the supplier.

HSE2
11th June 2018, 06:32 AM
Max was well and truly able to turn the tables in Canada.

Was a rather boring race but I doubt seb will be saying that this time.

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FTe217
11th June 2018, 12:25 PM
yep, that he did.
Well I doubt DR thought Monaco was boring winning but most thought it was :)
Onya Ferrari !
Not won since Schumi in '04 at the beloved named Giles circuit.

HSE2
14th June 2018, 03:15 PM
Canada isn’t normally a boring race but it’s funny how Monaco was criticised by Seb and Lewis when they didn’t win yet were silent at Canada when arguably its was a lesser race suspense wise at least.

FTe217
15th June 2018, 12:09 AM
buckets loads of mind games going on thats for sure.

HSE2
19th June 2018, 05:14 PM
Just announced. Red Bull to Honda power.

I guess it’s Honda power to Red Bull technically

Paxton
19th June 2018, 06:31 PM
Just announced. Red Bull to Honda power.

I guess it’s Honda power to Red Bull technically


I didnt see that coming.

I wonder who who of the teams will step up and take Red Bull’s position as the Number 3 team?

I’ll eat an RM Williams boot if the RBs are as fast under Honda power as they are under Renault.

Donut King
19th June 2018, 06:53 PM
So where to for Ricciardo? Can't see him being too positive that a Red Bull / Honda will deliver him a title winning car in the next 3 years

FTe217
19th June 2018, 07:57 PM
I did see some mention of this like a red herring quote somewhere a while ago.
Never considered the thought but what an interesting outcome considering the lack of form since the Mac period.
I'm surprised but I'm also picturing RB's chassis/development/Engineering a step above what Mac has been the last years.
Look at the persistence on RB getting where they are to date - last 3yrs you have seen the improvement whereas Mac, still not much better having discarded Honda.
I can't believe Honda ends up like Toyota, fizzles out, knowing their motor cycling division philosophy I just can't see Honda in F1 keep making up the numbers for ever.
This move by RB wouldn't have been taken lightly as we know, they see it for sure, I'm super keen seeing this develop but feck me it could even hurt my Ferrari's in the future for I recall the Williams/Mac winning era's.

DK, I guess DR will bail out right for he'll judge the recent past, he maybe right or he may end up paying for it.

VZTRT
19th June 2018, 09:40 PM
So where to for Ricciardo? Can't see him being too positive that a Red Bull / Honda will deliver him a title winning car in the next 3 years

I can see what your saying but i remember when Mercedes was an ordinary car. Things can change. Will be an interesting time at rb.

TS50
20th June 2018, 07:34 PM
the honda powered red bull junior team this year has still been in front of the macs
so obviously honda isnt that bad

FTe217
4th July 2018, 09:49 PM
and a wonderful MB performance in Austria !
I find it amusing even Horner mentioned never in his wildest dreams would you expect to hear MB throwing one of their snr members under the bus like what occurred for baby Lewis.
A first double DNF for MB, well played and Max brings it home.
The Red boys 2-3 and good result pettel back up.

FTe217
9th July 2018, 12:02 AM
Silverstone on......
Nice start by pettel, holeshot.
Kimi my good boy spins leeeewis yer !
Oh its the big recovery from the rear but at least his race got burned for a while.
Come on you RB's and Kimi.

FTe217
9th July 2018, 10:25 AM
I watched the race live.
Love the pace of this track but as mentioned it showed the divide - the Reds/MB's were much faster even the RB's weren't up to it.
and the spoiled brat whinges it was set up taking him out.......
Seriously this guy is such a brat makes me very sik he's breaking records of real racers of the past.
Just seeing him makes me sik lol......
Tuff having some competition for a change eh brat and that your invincible team making errors finally - the bubble is showing the cracks.

Elks
9th July 2018, 10:34 AM
were much faster even the RB's weren't up to it.
and the spoiled brat whinges it was set up taking him out.......
Seriously this guy is such a brat makes me very sik he's breaking records of real racers of the past.
Just seeing him makes me sik lol......


I hear you he's a complete pratt, I used to think that I couldn't support #44 but Vettel is worse. Never forget Multi 21. It's a least worst situation. If it can't be Danny Ric then I want it to be Bottas or Kimi to their respective #1's.

I do have the feeling that Verstacken would be exactly the same as Lewis or Vettel, given the chance he would stab his team mate in the heart, then go and get a sandwich.

Win at all cost was also a characteristic of the other greats, Schumacher, Senna, Prost,

FTe217
9th July 2018, 06:04 PM
and there in lies the big question, Greats !? Legends even now that they were but I can't put that guy next to them.
I luv Kimi, wish he could out drive pettel but he is a good steerer, I like bloke who have proved themselves in other machnery, bratt hasn't been in any questionable team but the no1 at the time.
Look at the early careers of those 3 and even went out on the limb through their careers and drove whatever they had under their butts as hard as possible.

David_F
10th July 2018, 12:17 PM
I wouldn’t put foul play past Ferrari, they’re a bunch of ****s. People only calling Lewis a sore loser cos he wasn’t liked to start with but I assure you if he didn’t have such a reputation everyone would have agreed with him. Before this race I wasn’t too much of a fan of his but I honestly want him to win now just to piss off those fuckwits at Ferrari.

FTe217
10th July 2018, 01:20 PM
lol.......thats for sure David_F, the Red boys heavys have been devious over the years just the same as MB or previously McLaren under Dennis days. Its an ugly state of affairs this game due to the dollars involved and the grand standing etc
Terrible political leveraging incl FIA over the years, always has been sadly but this wasn't political just a random stupid comment made by the spoilt kid in the heat of the moment, how dare someone spoil his party at home.
The entitled one.
Hello an opponent was on the inside deep into the corner to the point of locking up, he broke very late himself, he could have backed off, he had a choice, not cut in for he stayed wide.
As if any racer such as Kimi would sacrifice his car no matter the branding.
He would have yeilded 1 place and avoid damage, pretty simple but ego got in the way of making the smart %'s decision imo.

Elks
30th July 2018, 11:24 AM
So it turns out you can pass at the Hungaroring.

FTe217
30th July 2018, 11:26 AM
yer, wonder why they couldn't before :)

HSE2
3rd August 2018, 09:34 PM
Dan out of Redbull. I am shocked.

Suggestion is Renault

VZTRT
3rd August 2018, 10:26 PM
Confirmed according to sky.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.skysports.com/amp/f1/news/12433/11459194/daniel-ricciardo-to-leave-red-bull

FTe217
4th August 2018, 12:23 AM
On ya DR, got to make a move or stay same same.
Getting away from Marko is a good thing imo.
Will improve the frenchies, he'll learn more from Prost than Horner thats for sure.

Paxton
4th August 2018, 06:32 AM
On ya DR, got to make a move or stay same same.
Getting away from Marko is a good thing imo.
Will improve the frenchies, he'll learn more from Prost than Horner thats for sure.

I agree.

Red Bull put their eggs into Max's basket, and royally pissed off Daniel when they went with Honda for next year.

Honda have improved, however Red Bull will not win the championship with a Honda engine, and Dan has read this writing on the wall.

I am happy for him.

HSE2
5th August 2018, 06:58 AM
Well, while I wish him good fortune, I can't help feel this is giving up on racing and planning for retirement.


Nothing wrong with that but in a sport where you have a shelf life of prime years, being at your peak in car that cant fight for podiums is disappointing.

It's a move similar to Labron and the Lakers.

There might be a 2 year plan but you waste 1 getting there

Archilino
5th August 2018, 10:16 AM
Apparently going to Ferrari or McLaren would mean playing second fiddle to Vettel and Hamilton which he was dead against . At least next year he will be top dog, Renault will be better but doubt good enough to challenge the top 3 .

VZTRT
5th August 2018, 09:54 PM
Apparently going to Ferrari or McLaren would mean playing second fiddle to Vettel and Hamilton which he was dead against . At least next year he will be top dog, Renault will be better but doubt good enough to challenge the top 3 .

Rosberg played second fiddle....funny he won a championship.

FTe217
5th August 2018, 10:10 PM
Retirement ? and Labron, mmmmmm
I find that strange but forgeting labron for I know nothing about him but a typical over hyped sports person Renault and retirement you see that company differently to what I see.
Hulkenberg is 7th behind Max, in the supposedly 3rd best F1 team who might I add DR is 14points behind due to 2 wins behind one of the no2 usual suspects Bottas.
Renault are not that far behind at this stage to RB, - what IF they had a better driver since start of the season someone like DR for eg ? wonder where he'd be compared to Hulkenberg.
They do have pedigree, they have the resource, Prost now is back having moved off his formulae gig to Nissan, imo this man is great advise/experience as we all know.
They want to be up there, DR is the driver that can step them up I'm expecting.
I'm punting they will challenge RB better in 2019.

HSE2
6th August 2018, 01:07 PM
Retirement ? and Labron, mmmmmm
I find that strange but forgeting labron for I know nothing about him but a typical over hyped sports person Renault and retirement you see that company differently to what I see.
Hulkenberg is 7th behind Max, in the supposedly 3rd best F1 team who might I add DR is 14points behind due to 2 wins behind one of the no2 usual suspects Bottas.
Renault are not that far behind at this stage to RB, - what IF they had a better driver since start of the season someone like DR for eg ? wonder where he'd be compared to Hulkenberg.
They do have pedigree, they have the resource, Prost now is back having moved off his formulae gig to Nissan, imo this man is great advise/experience as we all know.
They want to be up there, DR is the driver that can step them up I'm expecting.
I'm punting they will challenge RB better in 2019.

You don’t bet against Adrian Newey. That’s what this boils down to. The only reason Renault are near RB is because of Renault power failures or Max not being able to drive.

So Dan wasn’t liking playing 2nd to max. Tough. Harden up princess. Always someone else better than you, give yourself the best opportunity to podium every round and you will go close to a championship.

The way this is being reported is Dan just wanted out of RB. I get that. You don’t know what happens behind the scenes to make the working environment untenable, but if Mac were also close that tells you where Dans head was in this.

It’s the next best Facotry team. Not taking that away from Renault but in a time frame where the engine hasn’t closed the gap to the front, in a chassis without Adrian, Dan is done.

Just like Labron watch the stats tumble in the year off.

FTe217
6th August 2018, 03:36 PM
Can't deny Newey's expertise and past results, results are Not there since the heydays, even he is not getting the ground this team needs as it once was, thats not saying he's past it but its been a while, a win here or there depending on circumstances but not providing the break throughs needed to compete with Ferrari MB race in race out, thats competing for the cherries.
DR's decision is a punt, just as staying with RB, I don't blame him going out on a limb at this stage of his career - I expect he sees RB in the similar position 2019 as now.
Its a gamble sure but nothing ventured nothing gained.

HSE2
7th August 2018, 09:54 PM
At 35 million a year for 2years, I would give up on podiums too. There’s that retirement fund I was talking about

FTe217
8th August 2018, 12:21 AM
He's already loaded as we know and prior the family fortune.
Retirement fund was set long ago.

HSE2
8th August 2018, 10:47 AM
He's already loaded as we know and prior the family fortune.
Retirement fund was set long ago.


Never can have too much money for retirement. You never know what might catch your eye. Small country, F1 team!

HSE2
8th August 2018, 10:47 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/motorsport/ricciardo-explains-renault-switch/ar-BBLumKE?ocid=spartandhp





Speaking about his decision for the first time publicly, Ricciardo said on a video blog: "It was by far the toughest decision I've made in my racing career but in 29 years living on this Earth, it was actually one of the toughest life decisions I've made.


I think this sums up where his head is at. He has lived on another Earth

4Vman
8th August 2018, 11:01 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/motorsport/ricciardo-explains-renault-switch/ar-BBLumKE?ocid=spartandhp






I think this sums up where his head is at. He has lived on another Earth

Yeah, $35 mill a year sure is hard to get your head around....

Donut King
8th August 2018, 11:37 AM
Never can have too much money for retirement. You never know what might catch your eye. Small country, F1 team!

A rock, while skiing.

Probably still too soon:grumpy:

4Vman
8th August 2018, 11:41 AM
Never can have too much money for retirement. You never know what might catch your eye. Small country, F1 team!

How do you create a small fortune?

Spend a large fortune on purchasing a race team.

FTe217
8th August 2018, 02:31 PM
hehe thats a good one Norm and true lol, for those who have never had enough/burn the dollars eg, DickieJR knee....in saying that some have so much playing with team ownership is just to move excess instead of over paying tax's at one end remember that :)

Elks
9th August 2018, 05:04 PM
How do you create a small fortune?

Spend a large fortune on purchasing a race team.

Lance Strolls old man is about to find that out. Being a Billionare isnt worth much when it costs USD$300 per year to run a team. Rumours are Ferrari and Mercedes are closer to $500m Per annum.

This is the big end of town.

FTe217
9th August 2018, 06:08 PM
yes Elks.
Then again ol man Stroll can handle the leakage who knows.
@ US$2.4B in 2016 will he really care ? I guess he's getting that back from investors in his fashion labels etc anyway.
Just imagine what this kid of his ever falls on hard times one day lol.......
Sad thing mentioning Stroll is how low they have taken down the Williams brand.
Look, it was falling before he paid for his sons seat but my, even I'm feeling sorry for Williams now.
I have had the opportunity getting to know a main mechanic who once worked for them and not that long ago.
I asked some questions that I didn't expect getting much facts But he did say one thing, biggest wrong move appointing Claire as Head Honcho.
It has caused much grief internally, not respected amongst the big end of town obviously, look where they are.

Elks
9th August 2018, 07:42 PM
yes Elks.
Sad thing mentioning Stroll is how low they have taken down the Williams brand.
Look, it was falling before he paid for his sons seat but my, even I'm feeling sorry for Williams now.


100%, the report were Dad paid $80m for the seat. Whilst thats a lot of money, if thing were running smoothly, they would not have even considered it.

FTe217
9th August 2018, 08:17 PM
Correct mate, she's desparate for any funding.

HSE2
11th August 2018, 12:00 AM
See where Dan is running scared from the emerging Maximus.

FTe217
11th August 2018, 11:19 AM
I haven't checked, will look.

HSE2
15th August 2018, 02:25 PM
News overnight fri Renault Sport boss.

2021 before they have a race winning car, maybe competitive in 2020.

Wow.

HSE2
15th August 2018, 04:36 PM
Alonso to step away from F1 at the end of the year.

FTe217
16th August 2018, 01:12 AM
Yep bye bye whinging Alonso.
Look sad in a way having been around for so long and can still steer but all he’s done is whinge last 10yrs near on.
He nearly got the gong in the great red team twice but ce la vie it’s been back end ever since and his personality has divided many.

Smart quote by Renault.

FTe217
17th August 2018, 12:45 PM
I still love F1, probably due to following it for so long I can't let go but his POV on the game is just what I think for so long.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/formula-one/who-can-blame-fernando-alonso-for-leaving-formula-one/news-story/94fee231bcfd0b8c43526e2096fd310d

FTe217
27th August 2018, 10:38 AM
Spa, one of the best tracks in the world but not the type of racing were seeing today.
1st corner carnage, Alonso out, DR DNF Kimi DNF..
A pettel win - moves him ahead of Prost all time wins.
17points behind Brat with 8 races to go.

HSE2
27th August 2018, 06:54 PM
I tried to watch it but couldn't. Turned it off 10 laps in.

HSE2
27th August 2018, 06:55 PM
What do we think of the 2019 team announcements so far?

FTe217
27th August 2018, 07:58 PM
Agree Ian.
F1 is in the doldrems.
Tech is/has gone too far in the name of progress.
Next we will have droids as drivers.
The game has lost its soul due to the future.
Much as most premium tarmac motorsport imo.
Have no care of the driver changes till its settled to answer your question.
Just hope MB capitulates so as Bratt is never rated as great or greater than Schumi, worse he's past some of Sennas/Prosts records its an embarrassment and sad those greats and before will be shadowed by that wannabee spoilt P with 3odd yrs of no opposition of 5yrs Chimpanzee I mean Chump Champ .

HSE2
3rd September 2018, 09:22 AM
Watched all of that race.

I wonder how much Seb missing pole was playing on his mind when he crashed on the first lap.

Was that the percentage play or the racer taking over?

Speaking of taking over. Dan has no speed compared to max now. ��

4Vman
3rd September 2018, 09:26 AM
Speaking of taking over. Dan has no speed compared to max now. ��

That was always going to happen.

Probably gets stale sandwiches too.

HSE2
3rd September 2018, 09:50 AM
I think it's more than that.

Maybe the weight of the decision was playing a part before the announcement but I dont believe the team would or have done anything different.

It's in their best interests to always put their best foot forward.

This is the highest level of professional sports. Huge money.

I dont believe there is room for being petty.

Maybe I am seeing this differently but I think RB have been pretty good about their comments.

My opinion of CH has changed a little since getting fox and seeing the coverage where they involve him.


They have an issue with max.

I would have spark cut his engine.

Dont have a high tolerance of paid employees doing their own thing.

Shame Rob isnt around to argue with on this one. :)

FTe217
3rd September 2018, 05:23 PM
Would you be thinking of the day before atm when out on lap 1 getting back to the pits ?
Doubt it, I think he would have been fuming at bratt or himself, by reports he's blaming bratt so would have been fuming about him and not missing pole.
I watched the vid of that a few times, he's to blame allowing it to occur in the first place imo and neither yielding at the point of no return due to his error of judgement.
A shame, would have been good to see the 4 fast cars stoushing it out.
Sorry for Kimi, I love that guy and for the sport, he's unique, enigma that suits F1 so much for me, pity he's getting on.

Re RB, I said this last night, the team can't afford to sacrifice DR in favour of Max or whoever.
Manufacturers points means money and brand placement, they would far prefer finishing behind MB/Ferrari than say Haas finishing ahead of them on last years ferrari engines :)
DR got to get his team on his side I hope keep them together and be smart every moment when on the job, racing or whatever if he cares as such.

HSE2
3rd September 2018, 06:39 PM
You are talking about a guy who according to CH, multi 21 was revenge for treatment Webber dished out to seb last race of previous season.

Still stewing on the day before is nothing for Seb

FTe217
5th September 2018, 08:43 AM
I agree on CH, I've always taken attention when they interview him during each meet.
Every sentence is carefully structured as you expect but I also feel he's frustrated overall their whole team not being able to break through that bit more to challenge the big 2 more often.

Seb is weak mentally when the pressure is on.
Been going on for years now.
Last 2 seasons he leads the championship and can't hold on.
Once again this season he has the car to do the business, more so this one (he had it last season as well imo) BUT he errors twice more than bratt.
I know we talked about driver movements elsewhere, Seb will have even more pressure by end of season and next, if he doesn't deliver next for eg he'll be out imo, Ferrari will have had enough and get the next best thing.

HSE2
11th September 2018, 09:10 PM
And Kimi to Sauber.

Now this begs some questions.

Did Seb have anything to do with blocking Dan?

FTe217
13th September 2018, 10:50 PM
Very very sad day being a Ferrari fan, Kimi is F1 legend imo.

4Vman
14th September 2018, 08:33 AM
https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41675191_1758134247618813_5906077320493400064_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=2df7b338d18bed44fbc60ed901b0249b&oe=5C3B5ED1

HSE2
14th September 2018, 08:46 AM
Disappointed for Kimi.

That last pole position must have been enough for Seb.