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prydey
30th October 2017, 01:25 PM
So, started thinking about upgrading a couple of weeks ago, and as soon as that seed got planted, it grew at an alarming rate. At first I was worried I'd miss my falcon, but no tears this morning on hand over. After driving home I can safely say I won't miss my falcon at all. Clearly I'm getting older....

Ended up with a RWD Diesel. Sure, there are some big expenses associated with owning a common rail diesel if things start going wrong, but given the history of the 2.7L, its a reasonably reliable donk and shouldn't give too much grief. Of course things happen, but I guess as long as you plan ahead as best you can then it won't be so bad. Given we've bought a van in the last year also, it just made sense to get the diesel and lack of DPF made it a no brainer really.

Colour is Havana. not everyone's cup of tea but i love it. Hurt a bit spending as much as we did in the end, but i'm kind of glad we decided to get something nice. Nothing like a nice new car even if it is second hand.

Some pics.

https://s20.postimg.org/razj242ah/IMG_20171030_130304.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/razj242ah/) https://s20.postimg.org/4mac2k0c9/IMG_20171030_130316.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/4mac2k0c9/)

https://s20.postimg.org/ejlcvhxmh/IMG_20171030_130324.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ejlcvhxmh/) https://s20.postimg.org/gbebqhh09/IMG_20171030_130338.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/gbebqhh09/)

https://s20.postimg.org/du2kj728p/IMG_20171030_130356.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/du2kj728p/)

Interior is very clean. Its a TS so gets the full colour touch screen ICC.

First 'modifications' of sorts will be installing the electric brake controller and fitting the light bar. Going on pics of other peoples, there is plenty of room behind the grill to mount the light bar a bit more inconspicuously without compromising on light output too much. Routing wires sounds like a fun task though.

Loving it.

Road_Warrior
30th October 2017, 01:55 PM
She's a nice looker :)

Routing wiring is a pain in the arse, even for my bodge UHF radio setup.

For the brake controller, Hayman Reese and Redarc ($$$) do a remote unit that mounts inside the dash somewhere, with only a control knob and warning light visible to surface mount wherever you like. I'd choose this option if I had to do it again as I got a HR "Guardian" unit mounted on the side of the centre console and I keep hitting it with my knee - not a very good solution.

prydey
30th October 2017, 02:06 PM
i have a tekonsha unit that i pulled out my falcon so for cost reasons i'll try to use that one. apparently the factory loom goes through near the A pillar somewhere and can be accessed by removing the inner guard.

fitting to the right of the steering wheel is problematic due to the knee airbag. not keen on putting it behind the roller door. a couple of others have mounted them on the fuse panel cover so will look at that option.

Only had it for a few hours and wondering why i didn't do it ages ago. Super nice car. My mrs is 5foot nothing so she loves it because she can see now.


couple of questions.
it looks like the auto lighting has no adjustment as to when it turns on and off? falcon you could adjust it.

also, with the dual zone, how does that correlate to the rear vents? are they controlled by the drivers side, or passenger side temp or are they dual also?

Road_Warrior
30th October 2017, 02:22 PM
couple of questions.
it looks like the auto lighting has no adjustment as to when it turns on and off? falcon you could adjust it.

also, with the dual zone, how does that correlate to the rear vents? are they controlled by the drivers side, or passenger side temp or are they dual also?

You mean headlights? Mine has an on/off thing on the switch?? Rear vent temp is controlled by the driver's side IIRC

prydey
30th October 2017, 02:29 PM
Yeah, auto headlights on falcon could be adjusted in the settings to come on earlier or later and turn off earlier or later.
Looks like that option is gone and its just on or off with the stalk.

Road_Warrior
30th October 2017, 02:40 PM
Yeah, auto headlights on falcon could be adjusted in the settings to come on earlier or later and turn off earlier or later.
Looks like that option is gone and its just on or off with the stalk.

Nah I think you can adjust it via the ICC, there are a number of options there for lighting, amongst other things

WASP
30th October 2017, 02:51 PM
Looks fantastic, very tidy. Congratulations

prydey
30th October 2017, 02:56 PM
Nah I think you can adjust it via the ICC, there are a number of options there for lighting, amongst other things

Couldn't see it. More playing required. Wife's stolen it already though so will have to wait until tonight on night shift.

prydey
30th October 2017, 02:57 PM
Looks fantastic, very tidy. Congratulations

Thanks, yeah really happy with it. Very tidy.

13726548
30th October 2017, 02:59 PM
Nice ride Robbo ...

Excellent colour :)

dash gt
30th October 2017, 03:08 PM
Nice, first mod should be clear side indicators off the SZ MK2 TX!

:)

defective
30th October 2017, 07:20 PM
Great colour, reminds me of sandstorm in the auís.
How does the diesel drive like compared to the Barra?


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prydey
30th October 2017, 11:20 PM
Great colour, reminds me of sandstorm in the au’s.
How does the diesel drive like compared to the Barra?


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If you drive it like a diesel it goes ok. Sounds like a truck on the outside still but very quiet inside and very smooth.

TS50
31st October 2017, 08:36 AM
nice pick up Rob, I really like Havanna, i think it looks classy

What colour interior?

WASP
31st October 2017, 02:11 PM
If you drive the Ranger 3.2 Diesel back to back with Territory, you really appreciate the additional refinement they have achieved with that 2.7 turbo. Performance wise I couldnt pick it. Both where a bit lazy off the mark but had penty of pull once you were going.

Road_Warrior
31st October 2017, 03:01 PM
If you drive the Ranger 3.2 Diesel back to back with Territory, you really appreciate the additional refinement they have achieved with that 2.7 turbo. Performance wise I couldnt pick it. Both where a bit lazy off the mark but had penty of pull once you were going.

Being a V6 it will be generally smoother than the I5. Acoustic windscreen and other sound deadening measures (engine undertray and firewall insulation) makes it very quiet inside the car. Where the diesel Tez stumbles is the way Ford have calibrated the transmission.

dash gt
31st October 2017, 03:22 PM
The V6 Diesel is a nice piece of gear, I could only imagine a Ranger with it :)

prydey
31st October 2017, 09:26 PM
Bit of weirdness tonight. Jumped in the car to go to work and all the icc and dash settings (mfd) are back to default. Using the same key.

Weird.

I also have an annoying noise (rattle/Buzz/vibration) coming from behind the glove box area once you get up above 70ish. Adjusting fan speed didn't change it. I hate noises. Very annoying. My falcon was surprisingly creak and rattle free even at 170k.

Road_Warrior
31st October 2017, 10:35 PM
Bit of weirdness tonight. Jumped in the car to go to work and all the icc and dash settings (mfd) are back to default. Using the same key.

Weird.

I also have an annoying noise (rattle/Buzz/vibration) coming from behind the glove box area once you get up above 70ish. Adjusting fan speed didn't change it. I hate noises. Very annoying. My falcon was surprisingly creak and rattle free even at 170k.

It could be a leaf or dead insect stuck in the cabin filter.

prydey
31st October 2017, 10:59 PM
Hopefully that's all it is. Just pulled it out and there was a fair bit of debris in there. Guess I'll find out on the journey home in the morning.

Any ideas on the icc reset? Hopefully that's a one off.

Road_Warrior
31st October 2017, 11:24 PM
Hopefully that's all it is. Just pulled it out and there was a fair bit of debris in there. Guess I'll find out on the journey home in the morning.

Any ideas on the icc reset? Hopefully that's a one off.

Don't know about the icc. I wonder what the battery is like. These cars start doing weird shit if the battery starts to fail.

prydey
31st October 2017, 11:47 PM
Haven't checked the voltage but it seems to start fine. It is a motorcraft one though but doubt it would be the original.

HSE2
1st November 2017, 06:58 AM
Congratulations Rob. Looks sensational and its a step up on packaging compared to falcon I find too.

prydey
1st November 2017, 07:02 AM
Congratulations Rob. Looks sensational and its a step up on packaging compared to falcon I find too.

Thanks Ian. As a family car its hard to beat. Plenty of storage space, plenty of room and smooth and quiet ride.

prydey
1st November 2017, 07:08 AM
Hopefully that's all it is. Just pulled it out and there was a fair bit of debris in there. Guess I'll find out on the journey home in the morning.

Any ideas on the icc reset? Hopefully that's a one off.

So, cleaning out the cabin filter didn't fix it, but the noise does seem to be coming from that area. i fiddled with all the controls while it was doing the noise, fresh, recirc, face, feet, full air, no air etc etc, and it made no difference at all to the nature of the sound.
cruising at 60 its not there. its only above that it appears and doesn't gradually build. its just there, or it isn't.

and the icc weirdness.... when i got in the car it was all back to normal.

dash gt
1st November 2017, 10:02 AM
So, cleaning out the cabin filter didn't fix it, but the noise does seem to be coming from that area. i fiddled with all the controls while it was doing the noise, fresh, recirc, face, feet, full air, no air etc etc, and it made no difference at all to the nature of the sound.
cruising at 60 its not there. its only above that it appears and doesn't gradually build. its just there, or it isn't.

and the icc weirdness.... when i got in the car it was all back to normal.

Told you the ICC's were a problem in these early cars. Only people who pushed got them replaced like me.

As for the noise make sure some debris isnt in the fan itself.

prydey
1st November 2017, 06:03 PM
Told you the ICC's were a problem in these early cars.

well, in the other thread about owning black cars, you mentioned staying clear of 2011 models, but this one is APR 2012.

upon reflection, i don't think the ICC was affected. I think it was just the MFD. Possibly a key issue as thats where the settings are saved.

more concerned about the silly noise for now, and on the way home this morning i discovered the windscreen washer pump doesn't work. no water squirting. checked when i got home. bottle is full but no sound from the pump, so has to go back in for a day or so to get these things fixed.

heading to bris in mid december so have 6 weeks to sort out all the niggles.

also, dummy fitting my lightbar in behind the grill, and discovered its too big. need a single row one.

prydey
1st November 2017, 06:05 PM
As for the noise make sure some debris isnt in the fan itself.

i don't think its anything like that. i think its more of a harmonics thing. it starts pretty much every time as soon as you get toward 70 and then stays the same from then on.

4Vman
1st November 2017, 06:11 PM
i don't think its anything like that. i think its more of a harmonics thing. it starts pretty much every time as soon as you get toward 70 and then stays the same from then on.

Wheel bearing??

Had this issue with the ute, annoying harmonic type noise above 50kph..

prydey
1st November 2017, 06:19 PM
Wheel bearing??

Had this issue with the ute, annoying harmonic type noise above 50kph..

doesn't sound like a wheel bearing. more of a buzzing sound, and i know sounds can travel and the source can be totally different from where it sounds like its coming from, but it does sound like its inside...

4Vman
1st November 2017, 06:29 PM
doesn't sound like a wheel bearing. more of a buzzing sound, and i know sounds can travel and the source can be totally different from where it sounds like its coming from, but it does sound like its inside...

Mine didnt sound like a wheel bearing either, non directional low frequency hum, if you can isolate it to inside the cabin that's a win.

prydey
3rd November 2017, 05:21 PM
Light bar added
https://s20.postimg.org/tux1v24yh/IMG_20171103_162506.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/tux1v24yh/)

Road_Warrior
3rd November 2017, 09:08 PM
Interesting, how did you remove that bastard dress cover on top of the radiator?

prydey
3rd November 2017, 09:54 PM
Interesting, how did you remove that bastard dress cover on top of the radiator?

the grill piece with the Ford logo?

there's 2 scrivets, 1 each side near the lights, then underneath is 4 clips. you can see the holes they go in on the pic. i used a paddle pop stick (something that wasn't going to scratch the paint on the bumper) and slid it between the grill and bumper to push the tab down to release the clip. this worked ok for 3 but one i had to get to on the inside with a flat blade screw driver. once i knew what to look for and how they clipped in it was just a matter of working out how to unclip them.

the light bar will obviously be less effective than it was on my falcon, but it didn't cost me anything and there are good reports from many other territory owners with lights mounted in this fashion. i don't need to see a km down the road, but widening the field of vision is helpful.

another more expensive option is buying another full lower grill so i can chop it up, combined with buying a slim line light bar designed to fit into car grills. will see how this goes first. its only blocking the bit you can see, with plenty of airflow under and around it so hopefully it doesn't cause any issues on that front.

Randel
4th November 2017, 12:55 AM
i don't think its anything like that. i think its more of a harmonics thing. it starts pretty much every time as soon as you get toward 70 and then stays the same from then on.

Maybe airflow related, a slight loose bumper undertray or inner guard plastic vibrating at higher air speeds? Or do you think it is actually in the cabin?

prydey
4th November 2017, 05:00 AM
Maybe airflow related, a slight loose bumper undertray or inner guard plastic vibrating at higher air speeds? Or do you think it is actually in the cabin?

I think it could well be airflow related. Whatever it is its getting worse, as far as when it starts occurring. When I first noticed it you had to be doing at least 70. It's been gradually starting earlier and now starts from about 50. That could mean whatever it is is getting more loose, but it's not getting louder or anything.
Today will be my first opportunity to get the Mrs to drive so I can hop in the passenger seat.

prydey
4th November 2017, 05:01 AM
Double post

prydey
4th November 2017, 11:43 AM
Hopefully not a premature celebration but I think I fixed the noise. The passenger side indicator repeater was loose enough to make quite a rattle when you bang the front guard. Pulled it out, ran electrical tape around the opening in the guard and popped it back in. Went for a drive and voila, problem solvered!

prydey
4th November 2017, 12:17 PM
got the light bar all wired up too
https://s20.postimg.org/reds0ltop/IMG_20171104_100512.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/reds0ltop/)

i haven't wired the switch through to the cabin, and may not bother. It looks like WA is the only state left that still requires an isolation switch. All other states are happy to have additional driving lights wired to the cars high beam.

dash gt
5th November 2017, 07:51 PM
got the light bar all wired up too
https://s20.postimg.org/reds0ltop/IMG_20171104_100512.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/reds0ltop/)

i haven't wired the switch through to the cabin, and may not bother. It looks like WA is the only state left that still requires an isolation switch. All other states are happy to have additional driving lights wired to the cars high beam.

News to me still needed in qld?

prydey
5th November 2017, 08:17 PM
News to me still needed in qld?

just double checked and you are correct.
http://www.katlights.com.au/apps/blog/show/43964677-the-latest-rules-on-driving-lights-queensland

that's just a blog but there is a link to the relevant qld rules at the bottom.

i do have a switch wired up from when i had it on my falcon, so just a matter of routing it through somehow. cheers for the heads up.

dash gt
7th November 2017, 11:27 AM
just double checked and you are correct.
http://www.katlights.com.au/apps/blog/show/43964677-the-latest-rules-on-driving-lights-queensland

that's just a blog but there is a link to the relevant qld rules at the bottom.

i do have a switch wired up from when i had it on my falcon, so just a matter of routing it through somehow. cheers for the heads up.

We just ran it through the rubber boot around the steering arm on mine for memory, then Silastic it up.

prydey
7th November 2017, 02:59 PM
We just ran it through the rubber boot around the steering arm on mine for memory, then Silastic it up.

I need to run wiring for a brake controller and Anderson plug as well so will try to use the main loom grommet in the inner guard.

prydey
11th November 2017, 01:38 PM
lightbar switch mounted.
https://s20.postimg.org/o8a2bafrt/IMG_20171111_120941.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/o8a2bafrt/)

went through the main loom grommet behind the inner guard in the A pillar. there is a hole in the front guard down beside the battery where some of the factory loom goes, so just tied it all to that and followed it through.

FTe217
13th November 2017, 02:55 PM
Not a bad spot at all Rob for the switch.

prydey
18th November 2017, 04:29 PM
meanwhile i went and bought this
https://s20.postimg.org/ervx75lx5/IMG_20171118_162258.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ervx75lx5/)

$20 from BCF (discontinued product). not quite what i was after. was trying to find something that had big enough sections (or no sections) to fit my towing mirrors in, and you can just see the handle of my californian car duster, which also doesn't quite fit in the middle section.

for $20 bucks though, i figured it would do for now. i take a back pack to work which sits on the bench near me (i'm a printer, bag gets a bit dirty from dust and powder etc) so now i can just chuck that in one end as well. previously i had an old bed sheet spread out to stop getting the carpet dirty.

Road_Warrior
18th November 2017, 09:47 PM
You won't need towing mirrors with the Tez ;)

prydey
18th November 2017, 10:12 PM
Van is 2200 wide. Territory is about the same including mirrors. Technically that means I won't be able to see down the whole side of the van which legally you have to. I guess it will become clearer once I hook it up the first time. Probably never get pinged for it here but if I ever cross the border into Vic I don't think I'd take the chance.

HSE2
2nd December 2017, 06:28 PM
My work mate just go a Territory. Those on fb might have seen the pictures I posted.

Will post them in here when I get a chance.

Absolutely love riding in this thing. It’s genuinely so nice

WASP
2nd December 2017, 09:51 PM
My work mate just go a Territory. Those on fb might have seen the pictures I posted.

Will post them in here when I get a chance.

Absolutely love riding in this thing. Itís genuinely so nice

Every second generation Territory I have driven or been in has impressed me. From the basic 2WD petrol model to the turbo diesel 4WD Titanium. Itís replacement has big shoes to fill.


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HSE2
3rd December 2017, 12:19 PM
I absolutely get and agree with what Rob said about not missing a Falcon.

This is a 2wd diesel, but its so comfortable, has torque where you want it and the noise levels are excellent.

Better designed storage space but above all, you aren't too high and you definitely appreciate the easier access.

Perko
3rd December 2017, 08:27 PM
We got a Territory when it was first released. Still by far one of the most complete vehicles that we have owned. If Ford had spent more on the last derivative differentiating it, then we would have got it over the Jeep.

HSE2
12th December 2017, 10:13 AM
https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23668855_1725241200833071_3516104047805281176_o.jp g?oh=70ec8f5b5917679da81c2b3b3b2280bb&oe=5AD5A6A6

Road_Warrior
12th December 2017, 10:28 AM
Explain plz

FTe217
12th December 2017, 02:06 PM
hand brake test ?

Off topic, question, why or who would have come up with the idea of only concreting the wheel track width and having that PIA section to trim and mow ?
I know some will say typical "wogs" concrete everyting lol.....but it has its merit - why create more work lol....

defective
12th December 2017, 04:19 PM
hand brake test ?

Off topic, question, why or who would have come up with the idea of only concreting the wheel track width and having that PIA section to trim and mow ?
I know some will say typical "wogs" concrete everyting lol.....but it has its merit - why create more work lol....
So when you do an oil change you just let it drip into the grass... No oil stains on the concrete that way.

Road_Warrior
12th December 2017, 05:39 PM
Yep, no ugly oil stains on the concrete.

HSE2
12th December 2017, 09:00 PM
Lol. It’s actually got more to do with how much surface area you are allowed of concrete on a hill block.

HSE2
12th December 2017, 09:00 PM
And that’s my new transport to work. I love it.

FTe217
15th December 2017, 10:06 AM
Lol. It’s actually got more to do with how much surface area you are allowed of concrete on a hill block.

Was this type of red tape law around way back then ?

So come on fess up a bit more Mr Clam ?
What did you trade ? or just added another to the fleet ?
About the terri ?
Nice riding over the top of standard vehicles eh :)

4Vman
15th December 2017, 10:25 AM
Was this type of red tape law around way back then ?

So come on fess up a bit more Mr Clam ?
What did you trade ? or just added another to the fleet ?
About the terri ?
Nice riding over the top of standard vehicles eh :)

Water runoff.

Road_Warrior
15th December 2017, 11:05 AM
Was this type of red tape law around way back then ?

So come on fess up a bit more Mr Clam ?
What did you trade ? or just added another to the fleet ?
About the terri ?
Nice riding over the top of standard vehicles eh :)

Some regions that are flood-prone or for houses lower than the level of the road may have special requirements for stormwater and paved surfaces

For example where I live in the hills with lots of clay and rock, water absorption by the 'soil' isn't very good so homeowners are allowed to discharge their storm water into the street, whereas other places you have to have soakwells on your land

FTe217
15th December 2017, 01:45 PM
yes I get this guys..but my thought was that looking at the shot those house's were built before the anal regs of today ?

Randel
15th December 2017, 02:44 PM
yes I get this guys..but my thought was that looking at the shot those house's were built before the anal regs of today ?

probably cost savings back in the day - save da money by using less sq m of concrete

Road_Warrior
15th December 2017, 03:45 PM
yes I get this guys..but my thought was that looking at the shot those house's were built before the anal regs of today ?

You'll find that some of these rules have been around for quite a long time. They just get updated along the way with more anal-retentive goodness

defective
15th December 2017, 05:57 PM
I reckon they look better like that too. More grass is good, my Mrs Loves mowing the lawn.

HSE2
19th December 2017, 09:15 AM
I traded everything Maurice. Went back to one car and I love it.

HSE2
19th December 2017, 09:19 AM
Was this type of red tape law around way back then ?


No I doubt it would have been which is why the middle section up the road has been replaced with concrete, but the drive in front of the Territory is brand new and subject to close scrutiny. The rate at which water leaves your block is regulated and includes measured catchment and flow rates.

Its not my car. Its part of the work car pool.

Road_Warrior
19th December 2017, 11:48 AM
I traded everything Maurice. Went back to one car and I love it.

I was dead keen on one of these for a while. The fuel consumption scared me off.

http://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/770/382/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ford-sy-territory-ghia-turbo-mkii_2c1.jpg

defective
19th December 2017, 08:03 PM
I was dead keen on one of these for a while. The fuel consumption scared me off.

http://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/770/382/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ford-sy-territory-ghia-turbo-mkii_2c1.jpg

I still am. One of the few territory's that are holding value pretty well.

Road_Warrior
19th December 2017, 08:17 PM
I still am. One of the few territory's that are holding value pretty well.

If my BA got smashed up tomorrow, it would be a tough choice between one of these and a G6ET.

defective
19th December 2017, 08:22 PM
If my BA got smashed up tomorrow, it would be a tough choice between one of these and a G6ET.

That would be a hard choice. Two vehicles which share so much yet couldn't be more different.

FTe217
20th December 2017, 08:41 AM
G6ET for me everyday.

HSE2
24th December 2017, 07:36 AM
Hmmm. G6ET for me too, but in 5 years I think it would be the other way round

WASP
24th December 2017, 02:20 PM
A business colleague of mine who also owns a Lexus, Porsche and a Ferrari bought one of those turbo Territory Ghiaís as a run around. Heís not your typical Ford car buyer so I was curious to know why he had bought one and asked him. He said, why wouldnít you? Where else can you get this type of quality, size and performance in an SUV for under $50k! Helps to put things into perspective. These, along with some of the G6ET models will become quite desirable in time. I have contemplated getting one of the last FGX G6ETís a few times. Itís one of the best looking Falcons in the modern era along with the Mk 2 GTE.


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VZTRT
24th December 2017, 04:35 PM
A business colleague of mine who also owns a Lexus, Porsche and a Ferrari bought one of those turbo Territory Ghia’s as a run around. He’s not your typical Ford car buyer so I was curious to know why he had bought one and asked him. He said, why wouldn’t you? Where else can you get this type of quality, size and performance in an SUV for under $50k! Helps to put things into perspective. These, along with some of the G6ET models will become quite desirable in time. I have contemplated getting one of the last FGX G6ET’s a few times. It’s one of the best looking Falcons in the modern era along with the Mk 2 GTE.


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The g6et shits on the xr's in terms of looks. Pitty about the lack of lsd and it's soft in the shock department.

defective
24th December 2017, 08:09 PM
The g6et shits on the xr's in terms of looks. Pitty about the lack of lsd and it's soft in the shock department.

All easily rectified once warranty is no longer an issue.

VZTRT
24th December 2017, 08:14 PM
All easily rectified once warranty is no longer an issue.

That's my plan