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Falc'man
25th February 2012, 10:37 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/1112phr-01-z2015-ford-mustangconceptJPG.jpg

Sneak Peek: 2015 Ford Mustang
The new global Mustang will be lighter, faster, and more economical, but say good-bye to retro!
From the December, 2011 issue of Popular Hot Rodding
By Sam Haymart
Illustrator: Sean Smith

The Ford Mustang has been a part of our automotive fabric for so long that it’s hard to imagine a world without it. It’s become an iconic part of the muscle car realm with several generations of metal favored by several generations of fans. There were low points in its lineage, such as in the ’70s and early ’80s, and there have been many high watermarks, such as today.

There’s no doubt among Ford enthusiasts that the current Mustang is arguably the best of the breed in terms of quality, handling, and technical savvy, and you have a world-class engine lineup, the highest efficiency, and one of the best chassis to ever underpin the Mustang.

The current breed also has its downsides, as it’s the most expensive and heaviest Mustang ever. And it’s no longer the entry-level bargain basement car that once appealed to the masses back in the ’60s. It has become more upmarket, more equipped, and has a price point closer to some European performance coupes.

In looking to redesign the next-generation ponycar, many converging forces have the 2015 Mustang facing a major crossroads. It’s racing quickly toward a swiftly rolling freight train of high gas prices, skyrocketing new government fuel mileage regulations, and a much more challenging global marketplace. Today it has a new Chevy Camaro to win against, new V-8 muscle cars coming from Korea to fend off, and now meets the Japanese sports cars face to face.



The Mustang is being redesigned at this moment, and is facing just as drastic a headwind as it did when Ford changed the game with the Mustang II in 1974. Let that sink in for a moment as you are told that the next-generation Mustang is being loosely termed the Mustang III within the halls of Dearborn, Michigan.

While that may send shivers down the spines of some, the good news is that today we have the technology. Best of all, the performance-minded gearheads in Dearborn have the will to meet tomorrow’s new regulations and market forces without turning the current stallion into a wheezing little gelding as was the case with the Mustang II.

What must be reckoned with is that today’s Mustang is heavier and larger than it’s ever been. The 2012 Mustang weighs about 100 pounds more and is virtually identical in size to the big-body ’73 Mustang once widely considered to be a fat pig. The next-generation Mustang will need to shed some weight, lose some girth, and get a lot more efficient for a great many reasons.


The biggest force affecting the design and fate of the 2015 Mustang will be the newly minted Federal Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) requirements. This summer, the Obama Administration drastically raised the target for the required average fuel economy rating to a stratospheric 56.2 mpg by 2025. This will change the performance car landscape as we know it, and hopefully not as we saw in the 1970s.

This means that the full fleet of vehicles Ford builds, from the Fiesta to fullsize F-Series trucks, must provide fuel mileage figures that average 56.2 mpg. So for every truck or muscle car that might only achieve 30-35 mpg, Ford will have to sell an equivalent number of vehicles that can get 75-80 mpg to meet the government-mandated average.

If your mouth is wide open, you are getting it. We don’t have fullsize trucks, let alone Shelby GT-500s, that can get 30-35 mpg today, and certainly not the small cars that get 75-80 mpg to offset them. What this means for Mustang is that it must reach never-before-seen levels of efficiency in just the next 10 years to simply exist, let alone push us back in the seat with 550 hp.

As the 2015 Mustang will likely have a lifespan that reaches to 2025, it will need to be much lighter, smaller, and have much more efficient engines. Ford is seeking to shave at least 200-300 pounds from the current car’s 3,600-pound curb weight. This will come partially with downsizing, but mostly from use of lighter materials in the body structure and chassis components. Look for more aluminum and use of high-strength steels.

Read more: http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/1112phr_sneak_peek_2015_ford_mustang/viewall.html#ixzz1nOe9DXct

Lynton
26th February 2012, 01:06 AM
I am not going to address drivetrains as well all know that Ford has some very promising goodies coming up in the future that will deliver the power and performance that is required by this market without upsetting the bean counters and tail pipe sniffers.

Equipment levels are a bit of a catch 22, we all want as much tech as we can get, more computing power than was required to put a man on the moon yet we want it all to weigh nothing, easy to please aren't we? Lets be real, the Mustang is not a ferrari, nor is it aimed at a ferrari market, if you want ferrari tech and performance, well pay for it.

A mustang is about presence, wow factor and the ability to have red blooded males doing tent impersonations in their trousers, girls calling shotgun and fathers wanting to lock up their daughters, it is about style. American muscle style!

To me the mustang is one of the few cars in the world that has reached icon status, along with the Mini, the camaro etc. The present mustang hit the styling nail on the head, instantly recognisable as a mustang yet modern, a masterpiece and what the mustang should have always been. The styling of this new one I am not so sure on. Sure it looks great but perhaps a bit too much euro and not enough american pony car.

Falc'man
2nd March 2012, 09:09 PM
Very good points, Lynton. But what would you think if it looked something like the Evos, but a little more aggressive.

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r547/fpv302boss/Ford-Evos_Concept_2011_800x600_wallpaper_02.jpg

Falc'man
19th April 2012, 10:34 PM
I'll add this chop from Nikked in here for a couple of reasons. 1, it looks awesome, and 2, latest news is the next Mustang may actually look like something that resembles this as there's reference made to Aston, which this chop is actually based off. So, so far out of the hundreds of chops out there of the next gen Mustang, this is the closest... Well done on a top chop.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/User7nik/15mustang2.jpg

FTe217
20th April 2012, 09:58 AM
Agree Lynton very much - the current Snake etc is all braun style modern into the old mould !
If they weren't so much I'd have one in a flash, the above and Nikes are too euro virtually Aston front heck I'll buy a Vantage instead in that case.

ToCo
20th April 2012, 04:46 PM
Have to agree, the new one is just a bit too "soft". The current mustang punches you in the head, while the sneak peak version massages your face with a deep cleanser. Just not tough enough..
It would be a shame if thats what it actually turned out like.

Falc'man
18th June 2012, 12:33 AM
http://forums.themustangsource.com/attachments/f806/110610d1337869623-2014-2015-photoshop-thread-22001155.jpg

flappist
18th June 2012, 08:24 AM
It needs a wash :)

Other than that the Mustang looks pretty good, I wonder if it will become truly global.

HSE2
18th June 2012, 10:04 PM
Looks good, something isn't right. Can't put my finger on it.

Falc'man
18th June 2012, 10:13 PM
Are the doors too long?

HSE2
19th June 2012, 06:55 AM
Yes that's it, won't fit in any garage I own...... Er no that's not it actually. :)

FTe217
19th June 2012, 05:44 PM
http://forums.themustangsource.com/attachments/f806/110610d1337869623-2014-2015-photoshop-thread-22001155.jpg

Looking more Aston the front - maybe the back above the rear tyre or rear qrtr is a bit bulky, just a thought and missing the passenger side mirror.

MisterAU
20th June 2012, 10:32 AM
Passenger side mirror is there (I thought the same at first) - it is an artist's rendition from the pic in the earlier post and you can see the shadow of the mirror; just not the base because it is black in the pic and therefore disappears against the background of the glass.

Falc'man
26th June 2012, 04:55 PM
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/TwinTurbo300/2015%20Mustang/564885_212380052213981_2080562783_n.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/TwinTurbo300/2015%20Mustang/154542_212379438880709_1489133829_n.jpg



Or how about a new Fairlane? I would!

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/TwinTurbo300/2015%20Mustang/306269_212382995547020_279678335_n.jpg

Pinched off The Mustang Source.

Falc'man
2nd August 2012, 12:15 AM
Another clue in this apparently...


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2010-jaguar-xk-r_4.jpg

MisterAU
2nd August 2012, 09:19 AM
Aston Martin influence very obvious

Falc'man
17th August 2012, 06:11 AM
Someone was nice enough to put this info together in one post so I thought I'd chuck it in here...


Here is a quick crash course for the newbies.

-The new Mustang is slated to come out for the 2015 MY. It will be riding on the current S197 platform, albeit highly modified. The project is believed to be named S550.

-IRS (independent rear suspension) will be gained.

-Weight will be lost. Ford's goal is to shed 200-300 LBS off the car depending on trim. Since it is riding on the current platform, the weight rumors may be off.

-Retro will be out, and Evos Concept's Kinetic design language will be in, but it will keep all of the traditional Mustang bits: long hood, short deck, RWD, and affordable.

-EcoBoost will be seen in this generation, most likely as a four-pot. Displacement is still unknown.

-The fate of the V6 is still unknown, but recent spy pix have given the wonderful Duratec hope.

-V8 is not going anywhere.

-Based on recent spy pix of an early mule, we will be seeing a new exhaust resonator that Ford has patented.

-An all-new interior is going to debut, obviously with MFT.

-A RWD Lincoln will spawn from this platform, supposedly replacing the MKS. Expect it to release in the 2015-2016 MY. Suicide doors are going to be making it on to the sedan.

Here's info on the patented reso the guy's talking about.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/116676d1344520381-looks-like-exhaust-crossover-seen-irs-undercar-shots-resonator1.jpg

And if you look closely in this spy pic....

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/attachment.jpg

Falc'man
17th August 2012, 08:36 AM
http://forums.themustangsource.com/attachments/f806/110610d1337869623-2014-2015-photoshop-thread-22001155.jpg

Would anyone here agree with me if I said this front end is very similar to that of the new Mondeo's, except that it's a little more aggressive? Hmm... I wonder which upcoming new Ford is touted as having such a attributes...

Falc'man
26th October 2012, 11:26 PM
Carscoop reckon they're onto it...


CarScoop Exclusive: The All-New 2015 Ford Mustang Precisely Imagined

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015-Ford-Mustang-Carscoop153.jpg

As mentioned in our recent 'The New Faces of CarScoop's 2015 Mustang' article, we have been working hard over the past few weeks to give you the most accurate look of the 2015 Mustang yet.

Hours upon hours have been consumed in getting the look as close to the real thing as possible via feedback and our own extensive investigation, and now, we can finally show you the next generation of pony car. Make no mistake; this isn't our view of the next Mustang, but how Ford's designers are actually imagining the car to look like.

The Mustang has been Ford's halo car since 1964, and the 2015MY 'Stang is expected to emerge from the stables in time for its 50th birthday. This nameplate is one of the longest running in Ford's automotive history - and that's something you do not want to mess up. Bearing this in mind, taking on the challenge of rendering the actual 2015 version was hugely exciting.

Working closely with our own sources as well as gathering all the extra information we could, including from a Ford forum thread that concerned a recent consumer clinic about the next Mustang (and which by the way, has since been shut down…), we created these renderings. The car in question has been designed in GT trim, so one can expect even wilder versions like the Boss 302, CS, and GT500 down the track.

The first striking thing upon viewing the car is how similar the front resembles the new Ford Fusion (Mondeo in Europe); it's not a complete clone but it is frighteningly close. The fog lights (with LED turn signals), grille and headlamps are similar; almost taking away that styling independence the Mustang had previously enjoyed. In fact, one person we spoke to had the view that if the grille emblem were to be removed, the car would lose its Mustang identity.

The styling of the classic side C-Channel takes on a more streamlined theme compared to Pony cars of old and is quite restrained; something that could be attributed to the global aspirations Ford is seeking with the new car - it will have to appeal to Europeans as much as it does with buyers on its home turf.

The glasshouse of the next generation model will be surprisingly conventional. The side quarter windows could be of any car as the unique floating items of the current model are gone. Fortunately, the roof helps redeem things with its twin bulges over the driver and passenger, giving it a more Jet-fighter appearance.

As one glances around to the rear of the coupe, you will notice that the classic Mustang tail remains, almost appearing at odds with the Fusion-like front. The taillights are enclosed in a glossy black panel, just like on the current car, except they protrude out more. Another detail required for European sales is the rear LED fog light, embedded between the quad exhausts on the lower diffuser; it almost stands out as an oddity.

Whilst there is nothing bad about conforming to European requirements, one does wonder if the strength of the Mustang design DNA has been watered down to please those on both sides of the Atlantic, resulting in what could be described as a "revolutionary compromise".

Aside from the exterior design, Carscoop learned that the new Mustang will feature an instrument cluster similar to the current car with a convex brushed-aluminum dash panel. Other highlights will include the MyFord Touch screen flanked by audio controls on both sides, plus an oddly placed red starter button.

As for the engine lineup, we are told that aside from the usual V8 range, the new Mustang will be offered with turbocharged four-cylinder EcoBoost and V6 units.

What do you, as a reader, think; has Ford gone too timid or has it struck the perfect balance between classic and modern? One thing is for sure, it won't be much longer before we officially find out…

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/10/2015-Ford-Mustang.html

HSE2
30th October 2012, 12:25 PM
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/Ford-Mustang-2013-news-and-pictures/

Road_Warrior
30th October 2012, 12:40 PM
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/Ford-Mustang-2013-news-and-pictures/

Yeah I think they're way off.

Falc'man
3rd November 2012, 09:39 PM
Yeah I think they're way off.
Mainly due to the fact it won't have retro cues, but also because it's ugly.

Falc'man
8th November 2012, 07:48 PM
We've gotten our first look under the hood of a 2015 Ford Mustang Mule, revealing not only its engine, but also some interesting signs of repackaging that could point to some aspects of the the next Mustang.

The engine bay on this 2015 Ford Mustang Mule reveals notably tighter confines than the current model. The current Mustang's engine bay is essentially a square, with room available for components to be found from corner-to-corner. The engine bay found on this 2015 Mustang Mule shows structural elements that pinch noticeably between the wheel wells and the grille-opening. Instead of the rather blunt, squared-off nose of the current Mustang (which is mirrored by the shape of the engine bay), the 2015 Mule suggests that a more shapely front fascia could be in the works. Take a look at the angled headlights of Ford's Evos concept--which span between the front wheel arches and the grille--and compare that to the new shape of the engine bay found on the 2015 Mule, and the similarity is instantly apparent.

There has been speculation as to whether the futuristic Evos concept foreshadows a more modern styling direction for the 2015 Mustang, or if the retro theme found on recent models will continue to dominate. These new shots of the mule's reshaped engine bay may give us some clues that point to some real Evos influence in the next Mustang's design.

It appears that Ford's 5.0-liter V8 powers the 2015 Mustang Mule in these shots. While any material, performance-enhancements are tough to discern on this test vehicle, it's clear that this mule's pinched engine bay presents some packaging challenges. The cold air induction boxed has been reshaped, and had to be rerouted due to the tighter confines. Similar changes are visible throughout the engine bay.

The smaller engine bay could pose problems for a new-generation Shelby GT500--at least one like the current version powered by the massive 5.8-liter, Supercharged V8. A motivated Ford could certainly find a way to fit it all in--if they're determined to stick to the classic, over-the-top muscle car formula. But an Ecoboosted 5.0-liter Coyote V8 might make more sense, now that we see how the 2015 Mule is shaping up underneath the current model's body panels.

As we've proven by past photos (also included here), the next Mustang will definitely get an independent rear suspension, and a range of turbocharged four-cylinders are likely as Ford pursues better fuel-economy, and a new global customer base.
And pics are in link.
www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91

Falc'man
8th November 2012, 09:42 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/Mustangs/attachment-3.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/Mustangs/attachment-4.jpg

Falc'man
8th November 2012, 09:44 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/Capris/modern-ford-capri-speculatively-rendered-51526_1.jpg

Modern Ford Capri Speculatively Rendered

The Capri is one of Ford’s most iconic classic cars, in Europe, and yet since they stopped production of the car, in the early 1990s, they have not really followed up with a worth successor. The idea has been in talks, we’re sure, as it would be a niche vehicle which would acquire a substantial fan-base, especially if it looked like the rendering above.

It takes the current design language used by Ford, and gives it a sporty twist, yet retains the overall shape of the classic Capri, to a certain extent, as this car would be based on a front-wheel drive platform, probably that of the new Fusion/Mondeo. An all-wheel drive version would also be plausible, as well as a hot all-wheel driven version, powered by the turbocharged 3.5-liter V6 EcoBoost engine, currently found under the bonnet of the Taurus SHO - it makes 365 hp, yet it could undoubtedly be tuned to make even more, with ease.

Currently, this is all just wishful thinking, as Ford has no official plans to put anything like this into production, and with the economic situation in Europe at an all-time low, we don’t expect them to change their minds on the matter in the foreseeable future, either.

Falc'man
17th November 2012, 08:06 PM
2015 Ford Mustang mule spotted with production nose

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/Mustangs/2015-ford-mustang-spy.jpg

By Jeremy Korzeniewski RSS feed
Posted Nov 15th 2012 2:28PM




Big things are headed your way, Mustang fans. Ford's iconic coupe is destined to get a modern dose of styling, based on the bodywork that graced the Evos concept car in 2011, to go along with its long-awaited independent rear suspension.

Hallelujah.

A new set of spy photos indicates that Ford is well into the development of the 2015 Mustang. Based on what little we can see underneath all that thick black camouflage, the new face really does share DNA with the Evos, not to mention the latest Ford Fusion, due in part to the shape of its grille.

It's also easy to see the influence of European pedestrian safety standards on the slope of the hood and height of the fascia. Everything behind the A pillars is covered with current-gen Mustang bodywork, though we do spot some interestingly unclad stampings surrounding the car's undercarriage.

Under the hood, the spy photographers note that there's less room for massive (and often forced-induction) V8 engines, though it does appear that the current 5.0-liter mill indeed fits inside. Barely. Which makes us ask this inevitable question: Is the world ready for Ford Mustang EcoBoost? We certainly are.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/15/2015-ford-mustang-mule-spotted-with-production-nose/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

samsy351
18th November 2012, 01:39 PM
Front end looks like the MadMax concept at the motor show recently

212


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/1112phr-01-z2015-ford-mustangconceptJPG.jpg

HSE2
18th November 2012, 01:57 PM
Love the Capri. Add two doors to that and i will shut up. I promise.

Falc'man
18th November 2012, 02:10 PM
Then we'll end up with 6 doors. :-P

Falc'man
20th November 2012, 10:32 AM
Front end looks like the MadMax concept at the motor show recently

212You're not wrong, these artists do their homework.

Falc'man
6th May 2013, 10:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L9Vq0PlNCw4

Falc'man
6th May 2013, 10:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF924X3c4Tw&feature=player_embedded

Falc'man
7th May 2013, 04:27 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015mustangarticle-automag_zps6040e7c1.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015mustangarticle-automag_zps6040e7c1.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015mustangarticle-automag2_zps68d56a8d.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015mustangarticle-automag2_zps68d56a8d.jpg.html)

defective
7th May 2013, 05:00 PM
Turbo coyote:bravo::bravo:

There's the base for the next ho... If an old tech pump can get what they're getting at the moment imagine what a turbo will do.

Falc'man
7th May 2013, 05:38 PM
I believe Miami will be used for quite a while, it'll probably see out the Aussie Falcon's life before anything global happens. Only hurdle may be meeting Euro whatever-number-they'll-be-up-to.

FPV GTHO
7th May 2013, 10:03 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015mustangarticle-automag_zps6040e7c1.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015mustangarticle-automag_zps6040e7c1.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015mustangarticle-automag2_zps68d56a8d.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015mustangarticle-automag2_zps68d56a8d.jpg.html)

This to me suggests the GT might be swapping the V8 for the Ecoboost V6. Why mention the limited edition Boss as taking the NA V8 still and not the regular production GT?

I'm curious also when Ford will debut a NA V6 with direct injection and TiVCT. With both new Mustang and F series coming its a good opportunity.

Falc'man
16th May 2013, 03:52 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015_MUSTANG_CONCEPT_Sketch2_zps677dc0cd.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015_MUSTANG_CONCEPT_Sketch2_zps677dc0cd.jpg.html)

Falc'man
22nd May 2013, 11:06 PM
The base model Mustang GT: Imagine an Evos with a Mustang flavour, with more power and less weight.

FTe217
23rd May 2013, 08:50 AM
I justcan't picture any Evo inbreeding in the pics above :confused:
The pic in the Mustang6G.com article Falc posted I really not into the the rear qrtr if this is it but the concepts pics/drawings above look more so carrying on from current design. Looks tuff imo.

jpd80
27th May 2013, 05:23 PM
The base model Mustang GT: Imagine an Evos with a Mustang flavour, with more power and less weight.
Did you mean the current Mustang rejiggered to look more like Evos but still keeping most of the current silhouette. I get that and I think that's the sort of generational lift needed to bring people back to Mustang,
retro style is done to death, time to move on.

Road_Warrior
11th June 2013, 10:47 AM
A full build mule has finally turned up I see:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2013/06/628x410x001-2015-ford-mustang-spy-shots628opt.jpg.pagespeed.ic.yXOK9B5DxP.jpg

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/06/10/2015-ford-mustang-prototype-spotted-on-the-street/

Elks
11th June 2013, 04:05 PM
Looks like there is room for a 5.0 under that long bonnet. :-D

4Vman
11th June 2013, 04:08 PM
Looks like there is room for a 5.0 under that long bonnet. :-D

Looks like there's room for a V12 under there...

It looks very similar to current shape with the extended front bonnet area bias which will make 4 door difficult to pull off from a styling perspective if they adopt anything forward of the A pillar..

Road_Warrior
11th June 2013, 04:25 PM
Hmm...a V10 or V12 Ford supercar based on the Mustang platform...

Falc'man
11th June 2013, 04:27 PM
The top-hat will be completely different from the sedan, Norm.

For example, does a Focus share anything with a Kuga, or a Taurus with an Explorer?

FTe217
11th June 2013, 04:32 PM
Funny - paint those wheels silver and they'd be close to BAGT first ones.

4Vman
11th June 2013, 04:43 PM
The top-hat will be completely different from the sedan, Norm.

For example, does a Focus share anything with a Kuga, or a Taurus with an Explorer?
Ok, cool, like ive said, if it looks nothing like a mustang then i'm cool, for all i care that makes it a Taurus anyway.

Falc'man
11th June 2013, 08:09 PM
R&T Gets Rumors Right: All-Motor SVT Mustang On The Way, Plus More 2015 ‘Stang Information


By Derek Kreindler on June 10, 2013





Spend enough time on the autoblogosphere and you’ll know that most “rumors” propagated by various auto sites are at best worthless garbage created to generate pageview clicks. The best stuff usually doesn’t make it to the pages of the publication, because sources need to be protected, and the juiciest rumors would inevitably somebody’s cover if they were revealed.

Thanks to some of our supplier contacts (hey, if the OEMs won’t talk to us, we’ll go elsewhere), we’ve known a fair bit about the 2015 Mustang for some time. But we didn’t want to publish anything about it just yet, largely because doing so would have meant that a trusted source would have been burned.

But now that Road & Track has spilled the beans on the all new SVT Cobra, (with accurate information that was certainly gleaned from someone deep inside Ford) it’s time for us to show our hand (with the permission of our source). Among the new features appearing on the 2015 Mustang

Independent rear suspension (but you knew that).
A 3.7L V6, 5.0 V8. The new 2.3L Ecoboost I4 is said to make roughly 270 horsepower.
MT82 6-speed will carry over
The SVT Cobra will have a 5.2L naturally aspirated V8 with no engine cover. The reason for that is because the new styling (and Euro safety regs) mean a supercharger is not feasible as far as fitting under the hood goes.
There will be further option packages for the SVT car to make it even more hardcore and track-oriented
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/06/rt-gets-rumors-right-all-motor-svt-mustang-on-the-way-plus-more-2015-stang-information/

Falc'man
11th June 2013, 08:40 PM
They've got a few fundamental things wrong there. If there's no engine cover it has nothing to do with superchargers simply because superchargers will no longer be the method of forced induction, and, by saying there's no F.I., they're assuming this "Cobra" - a badge which they're also wrong about - will be top dog. The Boss 302's replacement will be a track orientated package, like the Boss 302. As for the top dog I'm guessing it'll still be able to claim it has the world's most powerful V8.

That capacity is correct. This V8 will have the firing order I prefer.
The rpm was brought down from 9000rpm due to reliability and cost issues.
Bottom and midrange power is surprisingly good, or so I'm told.

FPV GTHO
11th June 2013, 08:42 PM
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/06/rt-gets-rumors-right-all-motor-svt-mustang-on-the-way-plus-more-2015-stang-information/

That SVT Cobra looks more like a successor to the BOSS302 than the Shelby GT500. Perhaps it should wear the Cobra R badge.

5.2 also seems inline with what the aftermarket are pushing them to, with a bit held back for tighter manufacturer tolerances.

Falc'man
11th June 2013, 09:09 PM
Did you mean the current Mustang rejiggered to look more like Evos but still keeping most of the current silhouette. I get that and I think that's the sort of generational lift needed to bring people back to Mustang,
retro style is done to death, time to move on.
Yeah, pretty much. They did say retro won't feature. Camaro is retro and it looks great. It can be made to work but for practicality it's just there yet - high waist line and small glass house means poor visibility but hey, it's outselling the Mustang.

Falc'man
13th June 2013, 04:36 PM
"My opinion:

GT will use the standard 5.0, SVT and Ford Racing will collaborate for the Boss 302 replacement and GT350 makes a lot of marketing sense. There will absolutely need to be a naturally aspirated, small displacement V8 needed for Grand AM and SCCA competition. There are big time restrictions on displacement and forced induction worldwide. The 2014 Z28 for example, is not permitted to run ANY SCCA class with carbon ceramic brakes, 305's in the front and none of the Z28's disc brakes are within the maximum size. Also, there are displacement restrictions on the LS7 nationally and regional competition makes the LS7 plate down to 60mm and must take on 100lbs. The 2016 GT350 (The Boss 302 will be at the end of any 3 year production car rule then AND, its the 350's birthday) will use an HO 5.0.

The GT500 will remain an FI car, might be a 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.8.. who knows... So...

GT, GT350 and GT500. The names scale nicely and it isn't a confusing mess like the ZLRSS28LT1LES3 Chevy offers.

Those that want a Cobra have one now. Remember, the Cobra name came about because Ford wasn't allowed to make the halo'd GT500. They made the Cobra II all the way up to the Terminator. However, the GT500 IS the Cobra, the plain Cobra's forefather, creator and superior."

...................................

He, too, got the capacity wrong on the GT350; it's a touch larger.

Falc'man
14th June 2013, 03:02 PM
I wonder if the 2.3 Ecoboost-powered Mustang would usher in a Capri badge... unique front and rear styling and the fact it's going to Europe it may well be a better idea to give the 4-pot that badge.

That would weigh about the same as a Focus ST, with better f/r balance, rwd, wider footprint, lower c.o.g. - it could prove to be a Z-Killer.

Falc'man
14th June 2013, 04:35 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015qw_zps0e15154e.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015qw_zps0e15154e.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/ce768fd3160b76f8e8a61c0d7b4c229d_zpsededf09e.jpeg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/ce768fd3160b76f8e8a61c0d7b4c229d_zpsededf09e.jpeg. html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/image-218181037_zps5f32db99.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/image-218181037_zps5f32db99.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/image-2782070910_zps1311b921.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/image-2782070910_zps1311b921.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/red_zpsf12c9714.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/red_zpsf12c9714.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/tweak_zps9399304b.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/tweak_zps9399304b.jpg.html)

Falc'man
14th June 2013, 04:37 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015mustang3_zps1789c7be.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015mustang3_zps1789c7be.jpg.html)

VZTRT
14th June 2013, 04:38 PM
I like that.

Falc'man
14th June 2013, 06:02 PM
We had an employee reveal today, and the Mustang got a huge applause. As far as looks go, I thought I was looking at a tweaked version of current, so it looks very much like mustang. Profile is a bit more fast back like. Rear is more sporty, with more rake. Rear fenders bulge, not unlike the hero stang we recently saw from NFS movie.

We also saw a performance version, and all I can say is, it is maybe the most beautiful car I have ever seen.

Very, very little Evos styling. ...

defective
16th June 2013, 07:00 PM
Found this on bookface

http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag9/jamesnst/image_zps86a60add.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/jamesnst/media/image_zps86a60add.jpg.html)

Falc'man
17th June 2013, 11:18 PM
Qft


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015_MUSTANG_CONCEPT_Sketch2_zps677dc0cd.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015_MUSTANG_CONCEPT_Sketch2_zps677dc0cd.jpg.html)

Falc'man
20th June 2013, 11:23 AM
I'm expecting the following badges on the V8 models:

GT
GT350
GT500

Atmo, atmo, forced.

Falc'man
20th June 2013, 04:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IheaziwE9Fs&feature=player_embedded

jpd80
20th June 2013, 08:39 PM
I'm expecting the following badges on the V8 models:

GT
GT350
GT500

Atmo, atmo, forced.

I wonder:
GT - 430 hp
GT350 - 480 HP
GT500 - 680 hp

Falc'man
20th June 2013, 08:47 PM
+10
+30ish & maybe mrc.
+ I've no eye dear.

It's possible GT350 will be released with the rest of the Mustang range.

FTe217
21st June 2013, 10:04 AM
Doesn't mean much to me tbh - I see some nice 4 or 6 pot front stoppers.
Just asking re Euro 5 or whatever its up to now - the US have their standards ofcourse what about the pom production engines to comply over there ?
When/IF we get the Stang - motors would again need to be revised or as fitted in US ?

Falc'man
21st June 2013, 10:31 AM
Doesn't mean much to me tbh - I see some nice 4 or 6 pot front stoppers.
Just asking re Euro 5 or whatever its up to now - the US have their standards ofcourse what about the pom production engines to comply over there ?
When/IF we get the Stang - motors would again need to be revised or as fitted in US ?
I think the standards in the US are more stringent than ours and Europe so there shouldn't be a problem.

FTe217
21st June 2013, 11:03 AM
I have always been led to believe that the EU has higher stds than the US.

Falc'man
21st June 2013, 11:08 AM
I have always been led to believe that the EU has higher stds than the US.You could be right, I don't know for fact. What I've read, though, is here in Australia we're behind the US when it comes to smog laws. I think jpd80 may be able to answer the question a little better when he chimes in.

Elks
22nd June 2013, 06:50 PM
the ADR's are usually written in a either or type manner. This is an approach that of course makes it cheaper easier to import vehicles without the cost of having to meet a uniquely Australian standard

The current ADR for heavy trucks is ADR80/03 So a truck must be Either Euro5 or US EPA07 or JS.... which are three almost but not exactly identical standards depending where a vehicle originates from. Europe/USA/Japan. .

In 2017 we go to Euro6/EPA10 etc. Whereas cars will go to Euro5 etc.

jpd80
22nd June 2013, 07:23 PM
I have always been led to believe that the EU has higher stds than the US.


You could be right, I don't know for fact. What I've read, though, is here in Australia we're behind the US when it comes to smog laws. I think jpd80 may be able to answer the question a little better when he chimes in.
Thanks Youssef, and by no means claiming to be an expert but after years of internet discussions, I've found that:
US Tier 2 Bin 5 is much tighter on Diesel NOX emissions than even Euro 6, in anything bigger than a 2.0 diesel
it's almost impossible to comply without exhaust after treatemnt (Urea injection) to break up the NOx.

Requirements for gasoline engines are much closer, within a stones throw of each other depending on how
they're read, Europe still has emission relaxations for vehicles as they get heavier where as the US EPA doesn't
follow as neatly although there are some different categories for much larger vehicles like Super Duty....

jpd80
22nd June 2013, 07:32 PM
+10
+30ish & maybe mrc.
+ I've no eye dear.

It's possible GT350 will be released with the rest of the Mustang range.

1. GT: Oh-my -goodness...that Boss power and a match for LT1
2. GT350: Wow, just wow
3. GT500: The thing has so much power now I doubt any more would make a difference..

WASP
22nd June 2013, 09:28 PM
Jpd80 , you can never have too much power. You just need the control to match it!

Falc'man
22nd June 2013, 10:00 PM
3. GT500: The thing has so much power now I doubt any more would make a difference..

GT500 (2016 I think). I don't know about what this will get for sure. There was someone saying that Trinity 5.8 may not live on because it's too big, and there was the report that no blowers will be used. From that one would assume the Ecoboost V8 may enter. BUT... I've got no certain/solid information on any of the above.

JEM is guessing(?) that EBV8 is indeed on it's way, and other rumours are also suggesting it's a goer for the Lincoln SUVs, and, Ford's Concept turnkey drag car, the Cobra Jet, had an "Ecoboost V8". At this point one can conclude it's most likely replacing the Trinity 351 when the time comes...

As for the power of that... it comes down to how much they want to detune the mongrel. Someone very close to the next V6 3.5 Ecoboost is telling me it's punching out 700Nm, so, what's that translate to for a 5 litre, and, how much can S550's new platform actually handle?




2. GT350: Wow, just wowAll that aside, I'm more excited about the GT350 and I think that's the one to watch. The LS7 powered Z28, or practically the Camaro-shaped W427, will face off to an atmo 5.2 Modular punching out the same, if not more power. Too bad the Z28 will be at least a couple of hundred kgs heavier.

Falc'man
22nd June 2013, 10:20 PM
..... and, Ford's Concept turnkey drag car, the Cobra Jet......


.......the GT350 and I think that's the one to watch.....Although the motor from the Cobra Jet Concept is not intended for the GT350, the connection between Ford Motorsport and their road cars is much greater than I thought. I was reading up on this recently and it turns out the recent Boss 302 Mustang was heavily designed around the circuit racing competitions - something that GM has actually failed to do. The competitors in these classes are the likes of the M3 and 911. A lot of effort has gone into ensuring it qualifies for pro racing competitions and the GT350 is going to be in the same vein - a proper "GTHO" type vehicle that is practically a turnkey racer.

Falc'man
22nd June 2013, 10:32 PM
1. GT: Oh-my -goodness...that Boss power and a match for LT1It won't be the Boss 302 aka Roadrunner. It's getting it's own overhaul. Same with F150's Coyote, that will get some upgrade's too. A bigger overhaul is on the way later down the track.

The LT1 was quoted at 335kW but I'm kind of suspecting they're sandbagging, or very much the base motor. Either way, yes, the GT will be gaining enough power to scare the SS Camaro with LT1, even on the Alpha platform because, although it's smaller than Zeta it's still going to be a little heavier than people think. It was designed primarily for a 4 and V6, and to get it to handle that extra grunt it's suffered the same problem as the current Taurus, where extra reinforcing was required to cope with the power.

Currently GT sits at 1650kgs but rumours are it'll lose a lot of weight, maybe with HSS and/or aluminium panels. The rumours were to the tune of 200lbs which is about 90kgs. So, under 1600kg and around 330kW. Not bad at all.

Falc'man
23rd June 2013, 12:17 PM
I think you missed the memo, the S550 is an evolution of the pony car to something it's never been. This will be an evolution as was the Skyline to GTR, 1st Gen Vette to 2nd... It cannot be compared to anything they have done before however, it has captured the Mustang and every little piece of is history in every angle.

It was described to me as, the perfect place the Mustang could have gone. It couldn't have been done any different. The S197 looks extremely dated...

The S197's chassis was optimized in 2002, however, there were budget issues. Very, very, very little is used from 197 to 550. Just like the Fox and Fox4... For the time, the SN95 was quite advanced. I want a good car and I don't mind if Ford uses something borrowed. It has worked wonders in the past...

Another thing, this chassis is design FOR the Mustang just as the previous car. It is being optimized for JUST what the Mustang needs. Not being loaned like the ATS/Camaro. Sharing brings compromise. The Ultimate Mustang chassis has been developed over the last 13 years and possibly even farther into the Fox/Fox-4. This is not a new stab in the dark, it's 50 years in the making.

You think the Z28 is where Ford wants to go? Ford doesn't follow, especially if it leads their customers to a dead end. The GT and GT350 will be the ONLY logical option for road racing, the GT500 will continue to dominate the strip.

All from chassis engineering from Motorsport.

...

FPV GTHO
24th June 2013, 11:05 AM
From AFF:



New mustang Only NA that was the news I received when at Roush a month ago .

Not sure what info Roush would be fed from the production side of things, but they do run the top NASCAR team which might buy them a bit of influence.

Have to wonder if Ford are pushing NA rumours to keep the GT500 a surprise.

Falc'man
24th June 2013, 12:07 PM
From AFF:




Not sure what info Roush would be fed from the production side of things, but they do run the top NASCAR team which might buy them a bit of influence.

Have to wonder if Ford are pushing NA rumours to keep the GT500 a surprise.

For the next few years at least I think that's correct; some are saying GT500 won't be ready before 2016.

Actually, he's wrong - there'll be an Ecoboost 4 pot :P

Road_Warrior
24th June 2013, 12:47 PM
I want a good car and I don't mind if Ford uses something borrowed. It has worked wonders in the past...

Hmm.

Falc'man
24th June 2013, 12:58 PM
Hmm.
What does that mean, Dave?

Road_Warrior
24th June 2013, 01:43 PM
What does that mean, Dave?

Well look at the context, the poster says very little is carried over from S197 to S550, and then refers to "borrowing" something (presumably platform architecture) from somewhere.

Paxton
24th June 2013, 02:10 PM
Hmm.

Replying to your quote - I do. I'm guessing where this borrowed architecture is from, and it won't be being made after 2016. Falcon bred Mistang indeed...

Falc'man
24th June 2013, 03:23 PM
Well look at the context, the poster says very little is carried over from S197 to S550, and then refers to "borrowing" something (presumably platform architecture) from somewhere.
How embarrassment... I didn't know you got that from my previous post hence the blonde moment. :o

Falc'man
27th June 2013, 12:01 PM
Weight predictions are 1525kg in GT form, 1505kg for the GT350 and 1580kg for the GT500.

Falc'man
27th June 2013, 04:39 PM
http://avideos.5min.com/16/353/5178353/517835225.webm

FTe217
27th June 2013, 04:45 PM
Sounds tuff.

Falc'man
28th June 2013, 04:27 AM
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2015...ning-look.html



Auto designers tell Edmunds that the 2015 Ford Mustang has good bones, a stunning appearance, but still "looks like a Mustang."



"All I can tell you is that it looks great," said Jack Telnack, former global design boss at Ford. "You will know it's a Mustang. There is no question about that."



The 2015 Mustang is expected to have a lower, sleeker appearance because the engine and suspension towers are positioned lower than on the 2013 model, said Stewart Reed, chair of the undergraduate transportation design program at the Art Center College of Design.




DETROIT — The Internet is buzzing with interest and speculation about the upcoming redesigned 2015 Ford Mustang. Edmunds turned to the automotive design community to ask what it has heard about the changes to the future Mustang, a car that has been part of the American landscape since 1964.

The response should be reassuring to Mustang aficionados. We're told that the 2015 Mustang has good bones, a stunning appearance, but still "looks like a Mustang."

Jack Telnack, former global design boss at Ford Motor Company, has seen a full-sized scale model of the new car, but understandably is mum on details. He retired in 1998, but makes frequent trips to Ford's headquarters in Dearborn, Michigan.

"All I can tell you is that it looks great," Telnack told Edmunds. "It's all new and it's hot. You will know it is a Mustang. There is no question about that."

Designer Stewart Reed told Edmunds that many of his colleagues are anxiously awaiting the unveiling of the redesigned Mustang. Reed is chair of the undergraduate transportation design program at the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California.

"I have heard some great words like 'stunning,'" Reed said. "This is coming from designers that are not even part of the team. They have seen the car from a distance and they are careful to not say what it is, exactly. To have a designer call someone else's design 'stunning' is pretty exciting." The redesigned 2015 Mustang goes on sale next year, during the model's 50th anniversary. Ford has said the car is being engineered to cater to buyers in Europe, the first time that Ford has expressed global aspirations for Mustang.

A four-cylinder model is being developed for that market, but the powertrain is not planned for U.S. sales, the automaker says. The rear-drive configuration will be maintained and an independent rear suspension will be added. Convertible and fastback models are expected. Speculation on when and where the 2015 Mustang will be introduced has ranged from the 2014 Detroit Auto Show in January to the 2014 New York Auto Show on April 17, 2014. The first Mustang went on sale on April 17, 1964.

The 2015 Mustang is expected to have a lower, sleeker appearance because the engine and suspension towers are positioned lower than on the 2013 model, Reed said. "What I am hearing is the basic architecture, the bones of this thing, are great, so I can't wait to see it," Reed said.

Additionally, Reed said Ford plans to put more emphasis on special-edition Mustangs. "They have done a really good job the last few years with special-edition versions of the car, the Boss, the Shelby and everything," he said. "I've heard the special-edition variations are really good. They are pushing that even to a more profound level than what they have had." Although there has been an industry trend to increase the size of a model when it is redesigned, Reed hopes the Mustang "shrinks down and gets a bit more sports car-like."

Designer Mark West agrees the current Mustang is too big, and he believes it also is too heavy. West is the Paul and Helen Farago chair of transportation design at the College for Creative Studies in Detroit. West told Edmunds he has not seen the 2015 Mustang, but he believes "the next-generation Mustang should go on a little bit of a diet. The current car shares a platform with the old Lincoln LS. It is a large vehicle."

It is impossible to tell from the numerous spy photographs of camouflaged 2015 Mustangs how the car compares in size to the 2013 Mustang. "For its current audience, which is early Boomers, (the size) is probably perfect," West said. "In fact, the car as it is now is a beautiful design. But going forward and trying to target a younger audience and taking the car to Europe or Asia, the car could definitely benefit from a slight 10 percent diet."

Asked what he would do if he was in charge of the Mustang redesign, West said he would make sure that the overall design of the new car remained what he called "American." "By that I mean making sure that you don't deviate too far from its Mustang roots," he said. "I think there is a tendency always to play to a new market, say Europe, say Asia, and trying to get influence from what those cultures may want.

"But I think at the end of the day, what those cultures do want in a Mustang is its 'Americanism.' So to maintain a lot of the traditional iconic elements of the design whether it be the silhouette of the vehicle, the two single headlamps, the articulating rear lamps, those are things are I think are iconic and even non-American markets will look for."

Edmunds says: When auto designers outside the company are buzzing about the 2015 Ford Mustang, you know it's bound to be something special.

Falc'man
28th June 2013, 04:42 AM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015_mn_zpsd6a4e01f.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015_mn_zpsd6a4e01f.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/avatar88315_9gif_zpse3eaa6ea.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/avatar88315_9gif_zpse3eaa6ea.jpg.html)

defective
28th June 2013, 10:49 AM
Ba gt rims?

Falc'man
14th July 2013, 09:44 PM
Again, as per post 4 of this thread, well done Nikked...


Nothing ground breaking, but it's good to know.


I have a friend who is a Ford sales rep and he has received a few pieces of information that are an addendum to stuff we already know.

He has NOT seen the car, but he says a few renders are fairly close according to what he was told, describing it as an "extremely aggressive Fusion" but it doesn't have a blatant Fusion front slapped on, it's different.

Just texted back and forth with him, and he sent me this, saying it's "pretty dang close" according to his contact. He said the huge scoop on the side isn't like that, and it's not so round on the hind quarters. He also described the side skirts as thin, and race looking, and the front fenders have a bit more flare, which completely goes with the S550 spy vids and pics.

We've all seen this, and it does fit the description.

He sent me this picture, we've all seen before.

I pulled a higher res from Google image search.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/User7nik/15mustang2.jpg


Now, here's the more interesting information.

Regarding the IRS:

The IRS was a for sure thing from the get-go. The IRS is designed to handle very high amounts of power, something they knew would be cause for concern. The technology used now as opposed to what was used on the 2003+ SVT models is completely different. He said, look at Corvettes running 9 second times, the Mustang's IRS will be able to handle that too. If you want to go faster, then you are going to have to upgrade or swap for a beefier rear end. Ford has no plans of building street components that handle that kind of power.

The car's weight:

The car will be lighter, but not by as much as they were initially targeting. They initially wanted 9% weight shed, but it's going to be closer to about 4%, or about 150lbs across the board, not including engine variants. He said there was talks of using carbon fiber in specialty models but he doesn't really know anything about that other than it has been discussed.


That's all I got from him. He said he'd tell me more as he find out.


A few more little things:


SVT will not be branded on the Mustang. Ford is going to use ST moving forward. This doesn't necessarily mean there will be a Mustang ST, it just means we are not going to see an SVT badge on a Mustang. The focus and escort previously carried SVT badges in special trim. ST is the naming moving forward.

The SVT Raptor is the last vehicle to carry the SVT moniker.

SVT is still alive and well within Ford, but SVT will not be badged on any future cars on the street. So, SVT Cobra fans have to settle for the GT500, which for all intents and purposes, is still heavily influenced by SVT.


The GT500 will remain the top-dog in the Mustang line up.


The BOSS will not return in the S550, at least for the first design cycle of the platform.

Neither will the Mach 1, but there's a catch. Can't say more right now.

The rumored GT350, I don't know, but with BOSS and Mach 1 not being produced, it is likely this will be the first special edition Mustang to debut on the S550 platform.

SVO. There is nothing released to suggest the SVO will or will not return.



SHO will be exclusive to the Taurus as it has been well established within the model.

ST will go on the Focus(duh), the Fusion and the other models.


This doesn't apply to Diesel trucks, which will traditionally continue the F-Series name probably forever.


The new F150 may or may not carry an ST badge at some point, I honestly don't know about that.

Road_Warrior
14th July 2013, 10:57 PM
Remember those Mad Max designs FoA did a couple of years ago? I wonder if they tested the waters for the design with that exercise...

Nikked
15th July 2013, 09:43 PM
Awesome too see I had some sort of idea to what I was doing ha ha.

Falc'man
18th July 2013, 10:31 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015MustangS550-Wheels1_zps46dff2e7.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015MustangS550-Wheels1_zps46dff2e7.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015MustangS550-Wheels2_zps49778eeb.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015MustangS550-Wheels2_zps49778eeb.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/2015MustangS550-Wheels3_zps63b778a9.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/2015MustangS550-Wheels3_zps63b778a9.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/ScreenShot2013-07-17at102547PM_zpse4616f7b.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/ScreenShot2013-07-17at102547PM_zpse4616f7b.jpg.html)

HSE2
18th July 2013, 10:57 PM
I am sure that is a mistake in print.

In August last year we were told about all the packaging issues that consumers gravitate to or away from and less leg, head and should room isn't on the list of a nation that's getting bigger.

That must mean more leg and head room as is the norm with these compact cars on the outside but spacious on the inside.

FTe217
19th July 2013, 08:06 AM
So the PR begins.

4Vman
19th July 2013, 08:19 AM
"Lower glass house", "Rumors suggest the rear seat is tight for Leg and Head-room"..

Well yes, what would they really expect, its a mid sized coupe which for all functional purposes is a 2 seater...

In a world where people are progressively demanding more and more flexibility and multi tasking from their vehicles, Ford US have gone in the opposite direction with an even more narrowly focused vehicle.
Fine for huge niche markets like what exist in the US where Mustang enjoys a similar icon status to what GT does here but it will be interesting to see how Ford AU spin this as a Falcon XR/F6/GT alternative.

No doubt in performance in isolation it will be a cracker.

HSE2
19th July 2013, 10:02 AM
I didnt read the article. It clearly says function has given way to design. So under one ford it must be ok to make livability harded with in class. What happened to class leading in every respect?

Now it might just be me but going in this direction and saying what they have done, if you were inclinded to look for positives might suggest its been allowed for by having a further option to suit those other considerations.

Then again the entire article contradicts others information

defective
19th July 2013, 09:36 PM
296297

Dunno if these have been posted yet

Road_Warrior
19th July 2013, 09:40 PM
The first one. I reckon that's it.

FTe217
19th July 2013, 10:22 PM
I got to say both those pics look darn good !

HSE2
19th July 2013, 11:16 PM
Blue one for me by a mile.

WASP
19th July 2013, 11:27 PM
Sure do Maurie, but I certainly hope that Mustang comes with some serious fire power. I would be happy with the blown 5.8 or a TT 5.0 Ecoboost, but a 315 odd KW n/a V8 is going to be quite underwhelming.

Ian, I think you are right about timing to. I would say late 2014 or early 2015 it will be making an apparence. I am very likely to have purchased something else by then however. I was originally considering making room for a Mustang by moving on the Wasp by then but knowing now what Ford is potenially considering with the GT I'm not so keen. The 'old' BA means alot to me. Not only for the work I have done to it but its association to a Falcon model that the late Geoffrey Polites brought to life, and Marcos Ambrose and Ingal raced to victory to saved us all from a Holden / HRT onslaught.

Falc'man
19th July 2013, 11:55 PM
Sure do Maurie, but I certainly hope that Mustang comes with some serious fire power. I would be happy with the blown 5.8 or a TT 5.0 Ecoboost, but a 315 odd KW n/a V8 is going to be quite underwhelming.

A standard GT will weigh under 1600kg and have a about 440hp. To put that in perspective it'll have roughly the same power as the recent Boss 302 (444hp) but with more torque and less weight. The Boss 302 has recorded a sub 4 seconds to 96km/h. And word is Ford are aiming to at least match those times for the standard Mustang GT albeit with narrower tyres than Boss'. If they achieve that it would make it comfortably quicker than Gen F GTS to 100km/h. In my view it will only be underwhelming when compared to an even lighter n.a. 5.2 powered Mustang punching out over 500hp. That suits you more but who knows if there will be RHD allocations. There may be a staggered launch of the special editions; that 5.2 may be introduced earlier than first expected until it finishes it's run. We may see it launched in 2014. The GT500 with TT will follow much later down the track.

FPV GTHO
20th July 2013, 12:27 AM
The GT500 with TT will follow much later down the track.

I'm reading that to mean the GT500 in general will debut later (and bring with it the TTV8). Ive read you mention beforehand though the 5.8 will still live on to begin with, so do you mean then the TT GT500 will be coming in a few years (and thus the SC GT500 until then)?

Falc'man
20th July 2013, 01:05 AM
I'm reading that to mean the GT500 in general will debut later (and bring with it the TTV8). Ive read you mention beforehand though the 5.8 will still live on to begin with, so do you mean then the TT GT500 will be coming in a few years (and thus the SC GT500 until then)?Hiyaa... what the? When did you crack 13s? Congrats mate that is outstanding!

To answer your question I believe the TT V8 will eventuate and there won't be a blown 5.8.

Falc'man
20th July 2013, 02:08 AM
"Lower glass house", "Rumors suggest the rear seat is tight for Leg and Head-room"..

Well yes, what would they really expect, its a mid sized coupe which for all functional purposes is a 2 seater...

In a world where people are progressively demanding more and more flexibility and multi tasking from their vehicles, Ford US have gone in the opposite direction with an even more narrowly focused vehicle.
Fact is it's a niche product. Yes it's narrowly focused and yes it's not what we're used to - not as practical as you've mentioned in the past. It is what it is and it's not unlike Toyota's GT 86 thingo or Nissan's Z - it's a cult car and it has it's status for being this way.

You and me may not accept it as ideal but as an example if I were to own a performance vehicle it wouldn't be a bad choice (heck I wouldn't complain), mainly because it can carry 4 people, unlike the Z, which is a car I appreciate and I'm not even a hairdresser, Maurie. Mustang GT may be priced the same as that, and it does have a V8 and it's RWD.

Some people don't like sedans and prefer utes. Remember mcnuisance? He bagged the shit out of the FPV sedans (because he's a race car driver) but thought he had a sports coupe with his F6 Tornado ute. I personally wouldn't own a ute and have no use for one but everyone's different, and that sort of shows that the differences the Mustang brings to the table has nothing to do with American and Australian cultures but more to do with individual tastes, needs, requirements, etc.

I wouldn't say Ford's gone in the opposite direction. The press are a little short sighted of the fact there will most likely be a sedan based off this same platform the new Mustang rides on. It may seem like wishful thinking however one source has described the Mustang's platform as "a shortened RWD platform". If it's shortened then that means the platform exists in a longer wheelbase, and what does that mean?

We'll have a four door rwd 4/6/V8 Falcon until the end of 2016, barring the unforeseen, and by that time I would expect more info released about a large rwd sedan, and maybe even a sportshatch shooting brake station wagon built especially for Rohan Oates with XD wagon tail lamps. It won't be affordable like a Falcon is today - that's the curse of the large rwd sedan on a global level, it has become a niche and a luxury.

That's a fact that hurts the Aussie large-car faithful most, only because, we, unlike the majority of other countries, were blessed with them for so long.

FPV GTHO
2nd August 2013, 01:51 PM
http://jalopnik.com/139798769

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18112l06t5czzjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1811ru5nm1q3vjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg

FTe217
2nd August 2013, 03:08 PM
Mmmm Thanks FPV GTHO - having checked the link you provided I copied the text below the green Stang :

Someone who has seen the 2015 Mustang said this was the closest he'd seen as far as renderings go. He stated "The green one is very very close to what they showed me. Except the fogs were the little round ones and the wheels were very similar to the 2012/13. The mirrors were shaped different but the side molding is spot on."

I do love my 4door Falcon - yer its not a GT by badge but I rate it just as good in its day, having said that whever I do get her out of the garage for a run/show etc I never have people in the back, at the most my 13yr old prodigee, so what I'm saying is the Pony car isn't a 4door Falcon that I dearly love but I could do with only 2 doors and green as above in my garage :p

Falc'man
5th August 2013, 04:37 AM
I really don't like the fish mouth grille on any of the Fords. They've gone with it maybe because there's a similarity to Aston Martin's grille but, in my eyes it's hideous and hopefully it'll evolve into something a little less fishy.


Mmmm Thanks FPV GTHO - having checked the link you provided I copied the text below the green Stang :

Someone who has seen the 2015 Mustang said this was the closest he'd seen as far as renderings go. He stated "The green one is very very close to what they showed me. Except the fogs were the little round ones and the wheels were very similar to the 2012/13. The mirrors were shaped different but the side molding is spot on."

I do love my 4door Falcon - yer its not a GT by badge but I rate it just as good in its day, having said that whever I do get her out of the garage for a run/show etc I never have people in the back, at the most my 13yr old prodigee, so what I'm saying is the Pony car isn't a 4door Falcon that I dearly love but I could do with only 2 doors and green as above in my garage :p

Having owned a couple of coupes I wouldn't ever complain if I had another. I was driving through Penshurst one night and got flagged down by about 5 drunks who were struggling to find their feet, "hey bruvva how bout a station to the lift?". Before I could say anything they jumped in anyway and I though why not, the station was only 200 metres away. The 260Z was a 2+2 but they sat one on top of the other and it did the job. And with the Capri, mates were lining up for rides and they didn't care if they had to sit on the rear window sill - they just wanted to hear the V6 symphony. Point is when push comes to shove it'll do the job. Try doing the same in a ute or a Nissan Z.

There is something desirable about 2 doors that 4 doors just doesn't give. To me, anyway. It compromises some practicality for design, and if the design of the vehicle hits the mark then I personally wouldn't care about practicality, but the back seat's there if anyone needs a ride so I see that as a bonus.

For driveability, your backside is, or should be, much closer to the back wheels. What that does for communication for the driver can't be replicated in a sedan. Also lower slung, lower centre of gravity, further improves it's handling. I remember the balance of the 260Z up the old Pacific highway on the way to Ballina; it was raining but the car was rock solid but the most pleasing thing was the ability to know what the car was doing, and how easy it was to control at the limits of adhesion.

I think the purest of the Mustang models, in terms of handling, would definitely be the 4cyl Ecoboost model. Whilst that is obvious I think it's going to be a surprise packet and will turn out to be a winner in many comparisons and go on to win many accolades.

Falc'man
6th August 2013, 03:20 AM
Ford Mustang Countdown Channel (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh_g4AJrndncJto0t1Tu4TiFKY5rXJsZS)

Falc'man
6th August 2013, 03:22 AM
https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2013/08/02/ford-launching-_mustang-countdown-video-series-celebrating-nearl.html


Aug 2, 2013 | Dearborn, Mich.
Ford Launching ‘Mustang Countdown’ Video Series Celebrating Nearly 50 Years of Mustang Culture and Legend

Ford announces new ‘Mustang Countdown’ online weekly video series, celebrating 50 years of one of the world’s most beloved sports cars

‘Mustang Countdown’ reveals the stories behind Ford Mustang and how it has touched people all around the world

Videos include behind-the-scenes looks at the Mustang 1 concept car, the build of the 1 millionth Mustang at Flat Rock Assembly Plant, and the burgeoning toy industry spawned by consumers’ connection with the brand while future episodes will cover restomods, racing and more

Ford is launching ‘Mustang Countdown,’ an online video series to throw the spotlight on the legendary sports car and the culture that has formed around it all across the globe, and to continue the celebration leading up to the 50th birthday of the car on April 17, 2014.

Kicking off the series – Where It All Started: The Mustang 1 Concept – turns the clock back to the 1962 debut of the first concept car to wear the pony badge. From there, other episodes lift the lid on Ford’s exhaustive Mustang archives, Mustang toys, custom Mustangs and more all featuring unique and often rare footage, exclusive new interviews and expert insight.

“RC Movie Magic: Filming a Chase”, takes a behind-the-scenes look at the creation of filmmaker Zach King’s recent project “The Cliché RC Action Chase.” That short film went viral earlier this year, garnering nearly 3 million views on YouTube. Just like the extensive filmography featuring Ford Mustang over the past 49 years, King’s video puts the Mustang in a prominent role. A pair of radio controlled Ford Mustangs star in an action-packed sequence that features drifting around corners, tight racing and helicopter gunships, all without any computer-generated imagery.

“Fans around the world share a passion for Mustang that embodies the freedom of the open road and the spirit of performance driving,” said Steve Ling, Ford car marketing manager. “The ‘Mustang Countdown’ series is another way in which Ford is honoring that heritage with numerous celebrations over the next year,”

Upcoming episodes will tackle video games, Mustang’s competition heritage custom restomods and more.

More than 9.2 million Ford Mustangs have been sold since the car’s 1964 debut. Mustang has made more than 3,000 appearances on film and TV – including “Bullitt” (1968), “Gone in 60 Seconds” (1974 and 2000), “I Am Legend” (2007) and Drive (2011). In 2014, a modified Mustang will be the hero car in “Need for Speed,” based on the long-running video game series from Electronic Arts.

Click here for the complete ‘Mustang Countdown’ series playlist on the Ford Mustang YouTube channel.

50 years of Mustang
The Ford Mustang is about to become the newest member of a very exclusive club – vehicles in continuous production for 50 years. In its first 49 years of production, Mustang has gained a worldwide base of avid fans, including more than 5 million on Facebook, the most of any vehicle nameplate. Mustang’s unique combination of style, performance and affordability established an entirely new class of sporty cars, and it has led the segment ever since.

Over the past 49 years, of the more than 9.2 million Mustangs produced and sold, most of them have originated close to Ford’s home base in Dearborn, Mich. From the racetrack to the silver screen to the airwaves to the toy box, Mustang has become an enduring part of pop culture.
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Falc'man
18th August 2013, 12:03 AM
Eight ball Rzeppa-type CV joints to be used, with unequal length shafts. Two separate sizes, one of the for the V8s, and one for the 4 and 6.

Falc'man
18th August 2013, 10:34 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/pillsmustang_zpseb1c9831.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/pillsmustang_zpseb1c9831.jpg.html)

Road_Warrior
18th August 2013, 10:37 PM
Gangsta.

Falc'man
18th August 2013, 10:38 PM
This is a one-off limited edition convertible for Norm.


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/image_zps88f2bf8c.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/image_zps88f2bf8c.jpg.html)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/image_zpsff096022.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/image_zpsff096022.jpg.html)

Falc'man
19th August 2013, 11:13 PM
Production for S550 starts about July 2014.

Full reveal is April. If it looks as good as people suggest then those backorders will be mounting nicely.

Falc'man
6th September 2013, 12:24 PM
Courtesy of chazcron

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/well2_zpsc594b6a8.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/well2_zpsc594b6a8.jpg.html)

Falc'man
6th September 2013, 12:25 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/WhiteNite_zpsb51eb1a8.jpg (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/yu_surf75/media/WhiteNite_zpsb51eb1a8.jpg.html)

Perko
6th September 2013, 04:11 PM
Looks a bit like a snake. Easy marketing for the Super Snake!

Elks
6th September 2013, 07:55 PM
Bottom edge looks a bit FGII XR6/GS.

defective
8th September 2013, 09:25 PM
http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag9/jamesnst/image_zpsc0ce8d95.jpg (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/jamesnst/media/image_zpsc0ce8d95.jpg.html)

WASP
8th September 2013, 10:14 PM
I saw that on Facebook. Its obviously a chop but looks good. Back end isn't quite right I don't think.

Falc'man
2nd October 2013, 09:20 PM
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/10038129005_54ee1403ca_o.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5471/10038151706_2afc97359d_o.jpg
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Road_Warrior
2nd October 2013, 09:31 PM
Interesting. Getting closer now.

That centre stack looks a bit shit though.

Falc'man
2nd October 2013, 09:55 PM
...
This is not a production final model. Surfaces, textures, and finishes may not be the same!

No need to freak out about cheap looking interior bits when they are not going to be final!



The company I work for makes a number of parts, interior & exterior for Ford. These bezel parts look like preliminary, untextured parts that Ford often uses for prototype builds. I can tell you from my experience over the past 15 years working with Ford that they can be very picky about the color & texture of the interior parts.

The funny thing is, our company has been working on the housings that hold the paddle shifter switches that go into Ford vehicles. The company we sell the parts to has been very hush hush about which vehicle these parts will go into. Is it possible that our housings will be going into the 2015 Mustang? Maybe.

I remember a few years ago working with the Ford Engineers & our customer Engineers prototyping & developing the capless fuel doors. The ones currently on the Mustangs are nothing like the first few designs. So it is possible that even at this late stage, some changes have been made since these prototype test mules were assembled; possibly as far back as a year ago. So don't get too locked into the exact size and shape of some of these interior bits. It's possible that they've made minor or significant changes to them since this car was assembled.

I don't see the toggle switches keeping this shape if they make it into the car. They are too sharp edged. Ford does not like switches with sharp edges. I can imagine that these may be sized down to prevent accidental breakage and the edges softened up quite a bit to rid them of the sharp edges.

The C-pillar cover just over the back seats doesn't look like it is close to a production piece. It looks more like camouflage. It doesn't make sense to have the seam where it joins with the front piece where this one is located; halfway up the window. I'm thinking this is most likely camo to cover the struts or lifting mechanism for a hatch.

Also, look at the buttons just in front of the door latch. Is it possible that this car is going to finally have memory settings for the seats? What a bonus that would be!

One last thing. The new Mustang is going to have Ford's newest turn signal technology. No longer will there be a positive "click" that locks the stalk up or down to let you know you've activated the signal. It will no longer stay in the up or down position after you've signaled to make a turn. It will be like many of their newer cars where you tap the stalk up or down which will flash the signals 3 times & then shut off to signal a lane change. You will have to press the stalk all the way and hold for a brief second to keep the signal on. However, the stalk will always return to the neutral position. It takes a while to get accustom to using this way. But it looks like it's the wave of the future and it's going to be on the next Mustang!

HSE2
9th October 2013, 02:58 PM
Interesting. Getting closer now.

That centre stack looks a bit shit though.



Has there ever been an American interior design that wasn't shit? I agree with you that doesn't look very nice at all. Sure the materials might gain in quality but that's just not a nice design. Buttons cramped and fiddly, FFS America should just stop having anything to do with design full stop. Holden did a better job with VF that what Chev did with C7 bar for budget and material quality. The interior design depicted here is worse than FG for mine. Steering wheel is interesting. We went backwards with FG over the best item offered in the B series and perhaps back again from the momo offered in Au

jpd80
9th October 2013, 05:43 PM
A clash of cultures.
While I'm sure the new Mustang will look great form the outside, my concern is that buyers in our market
have much higher expectations of interior layout, switchgear and trim styling, American cars fall way short.

To me, buyers would be expecting no less than 2014 Mondeo-esque interior with ultramodern statement
in a stylish coupe that exudes luxury as well as get up and go muscle - this is where we are poles apart,
in that American Mustang buyers look past a lot of deficiencies in order to buy that cheap muscle coupe.
Conversely, the prices Ford will charge global customers for Mustang, they should be providing a much
higher level of quality and execution of interior style than that indicated in the spy shots.

The FH V8 Falcon's interior is probably going to be way better than what Ford offers in the next Mustang,
maybe that will FoA's final jab to "One Ford" vehicles...

HSE2
9th October 2013, 06:11 PM
Not allowing for quality and materials in terms of design give me my FG2 lux pack over that. I love the size of the buttons on the FG, clear easy to select. The touch screen does get hit with sunlight more than I would like. Its location high up makes that an issue but stylistically its better to my eyes. Not being a Mustang fan there is probably some tradition here that's important to the people actually buying the product but to me the HVAC controls don't appeal at first acquaintance.

Exterior mirrors have those now familiar icons in them.

Randel
10th October 2013, 01:11 AM
Interesting. Getting closer now.

That centre stack looks a bit shit though.

Hahaha that centre stack is a pisstake for sure........ Isn't it????

4Vman
10th October 2013, 06:15 AM
Hahaha that centre stack is a pisstake for sure........ Isn't it????

Looks like something out of a 2001 Magna...

VZTRT
10th October 2013, 06:51 AM
The graphics on the touch screen look to be correct.

defective
10th October 2013, 04:38 PM
Looks like something out of a 2001 Magna...
Lol that's a bit harsh on the magna.

Falc'man
10th October 2013, 11:31 PM
http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/spyshots-2013-porsche-cayman-s-interior-revealed_5.jpghttp://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2012/11/2013-Porsche-Cayman-interior-1024x640.jpg

4Vman
11th October 2013, 06:18 AM
Hmm.. that DOES NOT look like a heated bottle holder.....

HSE2
15th October 2013, 08:30 PM
Lol that's a bit harsh on the magna.

It is harsh. Porsche used something similar in the 2003 Cayenne.

Falc'man
17th October 2013, 01:19 PM
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697&d=1381846209


https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1394464_383672088402928_1009725532_n.jpg

FTe217
17th October 2013, 08:45 PM
I'm getting sic seeing possible finish etc - you know what - I'm calling it already, it will look pretty from outside, hardly have seen an american interior that looks balanced clean and functional to say the least, it will be love outside yuk under the skin :)

defective
17th October 2013, 08:57 PM
If they really want this thing to go global, and be a true competitor around the world they're gonna need to sort the interior.
Its the main bit you see every time you drive it, if it looks clunky its gonna grate.

4Vman
17th October 2013, 08:59 PM
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697&d=1381846209


https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1394464_383672088402928_1009725532_n.jpg
Has a lot of "67 coupe" about the roofline sweep to tail.

More retro styling cues?

Falc'man
17th October 2013, 09:06 PM
Those pics of the Ferrari's before/after interior shots should give us a clue how much difference there is between a prototype and the finished product. We should wait and see.


Has a lot of "67 coupe" about the roofline sweep to tail.

More retro styling cues?

Yes, Ford did mention the Fastbacks of the 60's would inspire it. Although the front end will be contemporary as you can see, unlike the current model.

defective
17th October 2013, 09:51 PM
The blue one reminds me of a s15 Sylvia from the a pillars back.

Falc'man
18th October 2013, 10:32 AM
DETROIT (Reuters) -- The long wait will be over soon for hard-core Mustang fans: Ford Motor Co. plans to unveil the next-generation 2015 Mustang later this year, several months ahead of the car's 50th anniversary, and has invited auto writers for a sneak peek next week.

The Mustang is getting its first complete overhaul since 2005, including a more modern design, a more nimble chassis and more efficient engines and transmissions intended to broaden the car's appeal outside its core American audience, according to sources familiar with Ford's plans.

The automaker has invited small numbers of automotive writers, including European media, to its Dearborn, Mich., headquarters for a sneak preview of the new Mustang, beginning next week, several sources said.

The writers have agreed not to reveal details of the car until Ford gives the nod -- but embargoes on new car models are routinely broken, so the first photos of the 2015 Mustang could leak ahead of the car's formal debut in December.

The 2015 model is slated to go on sale next summer.

The original Mustang was introduced at the New York World's Fair on April 17, 1964, to tremendous national fanfare. It was featured on the covers of both Time and Newsweek magazine, helping to cement the reputation of Ford's then-sales boss, Lee Iacocca, and was purchased by more than half a million customers in 1965, its first full year on the market.

When it was last redesigned eight years ago, the Mustang took a step backward in time, with a retro design that has attracted fewer and fewer buyers. Sales last year totaled just 82,995 and were down another 11.5 percent through September.

The automaker is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a ground-up redesign of the car. The 2015 model will be the first Mustang aimed at global markets, notably Europe, Japan and Australia.

To enhance its appeal to prospective U.S. and overseas buyers, Ford is overhauling nearly every inch of the car, the sources said.

The automaker has developed a new rear-wheel-drive platform for the 2015 Mustang, which will ride on the same 107-inch wheelbase as its predecessor but is expected to shed several hundred pounds.

Ford is revamping the car's suspension, steering and brakes, and upgrading engines and transmissions, with a new EcoBoost turbocharged four-cylinder engine to be offered as an option.

The exterior sheet metal and the cabin have been completely redesigned to give it a more modern look and feel, but the 2015 Mustang will have styling cues inspired by past Mustangs, the sources said.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20131017/OEM04/131019897/ford-offers-auto-writers-a-look-at-redesigned-mustang-next-week#ixzz2i1q3uuDQ
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HSE2
19th October 2013, 12:10 PM
Joshua will be front and centre on this one for sure. Anyone in the media that has a GT500 as a twitter cover photo is a dead set certainty

HSE2
28th October 2013, 09:35 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/1377565_740437962648531_892966952_n.jpg

Falc'man
28th October 2013, 09:36 AM
Haha... beat me by that much.

FTe217
28th October 2013, 09:42 AM
yes Ian is keeping a close watch on the new pony or gts :p

HSE2
28th October 2013, 09:44 AM
You were very unlucky. In a hurry checking twitter on the way out the door.

If that's it, I like it with concern's over the rear styling. I know these types of cars are prisoners to tradition but that shape is Mustang without doing the dodgy tail lights. Mixing new front with old rear styling cues "might create" a car that's not cohesive in any country other than the USA.
I think a global Mustang needs to be newer and riskier than Ford might like to be with it while still being Mustang which I guess is the point. Some of those interior touches that might nod to history will be appreciated in the home market but could be tedious and view in lesser light around the globe.
An American product has a stereotype that needs to be shattered to be successful on the global scares of sustainability.
I guess unlike where we buy a model and its current for years the Global mustang will change quickly. Not sure if that's a good thing or not but you can bank on 12 months updates to some degree. Those perpetually waiting for the next best thing will have a brand new set of excuses that will actually make more sense.

HSE2
28th October 2013, 09:56 AM
yes Ian is keeping a close watch on the new pony or gts :p



Not sure why but that shot reminded me of GTR and that's not entirely a bad thing. It is however the front I had the most faith in. Let's see the rear and that interior, including getting in and out of the back seat and how much living space in the back there is. Do I mention boot space Maurie?

its a completely different class of car so it is with great annoyance that I read comments by the media that this is our FPV replacement. Ford would not bring back the coupe when they had to do it by themselves based on the Falcon. They said there was no market for it verse the expense. When handed a coupe it certainly makes sense to offer it but those that require 4 doors are more likely to compromise on the V8 and head to AMG A45 sort of cars for a similar price for pretty good performance.

Audi BMW and AMG must see a market in the 80-100k segment once HSV and FPV are gone.

It's bad enough parking now without those extra large doors but in saying this coupes seem to be on the increase. We shall see but for me I think I would sacrifice the V8 ahead of packaging. You have to live with the car and if compromises are now the order of the day in this new world then I would rather have a 300SRT8 than a faster quicker better Mustang. Ford don't seem to get this. I think the sooner AM goes and a car person takes Ford over the better.

I don't hope GM stick with 4 door performance cars and that they hurt Ford around the globe with them. If I have to support GM to make that happen I will because it's the only way Ford will react. They need to be hurt by having a Mustang only performance option. Talking about it won't get the job done. Ford need to bleed to re-enter a market they are fundamentally opposed to and have been since Bill Burke.

VZTRT
28th October 2013, 10:36 AM
Glad people are liking the front of the mustang.

FTe217
28th October 2013, 10:45 AM
Ian - I agree of the front cover pic - looking jap more so there, replace the pony badge with the nissan one you'd think skyline !

Look I agree with you in most part - I like the old fastback bullit pony and at times consider but I think thats a romantic thought for I expect it to drive as simply as the T3 for eg, turning this american icon into a global vehicle will take away some of the aura I'm predicting, I know a high admin pony stalwart here and incl the US purists as expected not in favour of this global beast, so as you say Mr Ford making use of the ol marque as a FPV replacement and who knows what elsewhere.
I'm with you its not for me for now - I'll check it out and decide when the time comes, FH may tick the box and I won't even bother with the pony but I pointed out yesterday to the kids whilst on the road a low k C63 would probably fit my bill but I won't buy a general product ie hsv but for a camaro but that won't happen as well I tell you......

VZTRT please explain ?

Falc'man
28th October 2013, 11:00 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/1377565_740437962648531_892966952_n.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/yu_surf75/WhiteNite_zpsb51eb1a8.jpg

http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx247/perko73/XR8%20Ute/2015-Ford-Mustang-spy-photo-8jpgampMaxW630_zpsd3c4f601.jpg

VZTRT
28th October 2013, 11:01 AM
VZTRT please explain ?

I have a feeling that the front design will be familiar with another Ford vehicle.

Falc'man
28th October 2013, 11:03 AM
Above I've posted the 3d model and original spy shot for reference. The guy who did the model is saying C&D's shot isn't as close as they're making it out to be. Below is their attempt from a few years back..


http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac172/Gradeau/CarandDriver2010Mustang_zps755c7727.jpg

HSE2
28th October 2013, 11:10 AM
Glad people are liking the front of the mustang.

I knew I had to say that for a reason. How good would a FH GT look with that front and bonnet!

HSE2
28th October 2013, 11:19 AM
Ford has given an insight into some possible engine and transmission choices for its 2015 Mustang through a customer survey that has been shared online.

Enthusiast website Mustang6g user "PVC" has published the survey questions from marketing company Morpace, which also hints at possible pricing.

Among the survey questions is a choice of three engine options, with a 3.8 litre V6 producing 224kW and 394Nm listed as the ‘standard’ engine.
additional US$560 could buy you a 2.4 litre four-cylinder turbocharged engine, making 231kW and 421Nm but with improved fuel consumption, down to 12.8 l/100km on city-cycle compared with the V6 unit’s 14.9 l/100km.

A 4.9 litre V8 option is good for 321kW and 537Nm according to the survey, and costs an additional US$1,890 over the standard V6.


The survey also suggests a “base price” of US$23,995 before asking how much the respondent plans to spend on extras.

The respondent is then teased with a US$21,995 starting price and asked if their option preferences change as a result.

Possible transmission choices include both six- and seven-speed manuals along with a six-speed automatic and a “10R” automatic.

A convertible version is listed in the survey as a US$5,000 option.

The 2015 Ford Mustang is a confirmed starter for the Australian market and could be unveiled overseas as early as December. Local engine and transmission options along with pricing remain a mystery for now.

Road_Warrior
28th October 2013, 11:29 AM
3.8 litre? I thought all they had was the 3.5 and 3.7...

HSE2
28th October 2013, 11:32 AM
Does it really matter when the 4 is that good for SFA?

Falc'man
28th October 2013, 11:48 AM
3.8 litre? I thought all they had was the 3.5 and 3.7...The other capacities aren't correct either. From my understanding it's a 2.3, and the 5.0 is no longer 4942 like it used to be. Maybe an indication, or a hint, that the hp figures are inaccurate as well.

Falc'man
28th October 2013, 01:16 PM
Leaked! This is (Almost Definitely) the 2015 Ford Mustang: Exclusive 360º View and Full Details! - Future Cars

Leaked! This is (Almost Definitely) the 2015 Ford Mustang: Exclusive 360º View and Full Details!
All the dirt on the 2015 Mustang that Ford doesn't want you to know. And yes, it still has those nifty sequential turn signals.

October 2013
BY MULTIPLE AUTHORS
MULTIPLE PHOTOGRAPHERS
ILLUSTRATION BY NICK KALOTERAKIS



From the December 2013 Issue of Car and Driver

In a nation obsessed with the right now, few things have held up over the past 50 years as well as the Ford *Mustang. The first pony car debuted at the 1964 New York World’s Fair and instantly became a tent pole of Americana. Before the model officially turns 50 on April 17, 2014, Ford will celebrate its lasting *contribution to the postwar-boom culture with a brand-new, much anticipated Mustang.

But the times, they are a changin’ (yep, a song also released in 1964). Ford’s American icon continues to gain offshore admirers. The Blue Oval plans to sell the next Mustang globally, and to appease overseas buyers, the car will need to be lighter and more efficient. But that’s not to say that traditional fans will be disappointed.
Bodywork

While the new Mustang will keep the somewhat hefty proportions of its predecessor, exterior dimensions will shrink ever so slightly. It will also cease to have stand-alone styling within Ford’s lineup. A number of design cues will evoke the familial design language pioneered by the Fusion, and the Mustang’s new front end clearly has been influenced by the brand’s Evos concept from the 2011 Frankfurt show.

The car’s headlight motif joins the rest of the Ford family, but the upright grille remains Mustang-esque. It makes subtle use of the brand’s current Aston Martin-via-Dearborn mouth while still maintaining an appearance that’s unflinchingly pony car. The design proc*ess has taken longer than the folks at Ford would’ve hoped, we’re told, after the initial proposal was rejected for not being Mustang enough. We imagine that it was a little too Euro-soft, a little too much like the Evos.

In the final shape, a pair of large vents resides on the front of the hood, creating the appearance of flared mustang nostrils that hint at the power lurking beneath. The rear window features a sort of widow’s peak extending from the roof, à la the SRT Viper, and the side windows feature a more *cohesive shape—as opposed to the quarter-windows separated by fat B-pillars on the current car—with an upward kink that resembles the new Corvette’s treatment.
Interior

Retro is not completely dead in the new cockpit, either. Two large, tubular gauges will continue to sit in front of the driver as they do today, and circular air vents will reside atop the center stack, flanked by a rectangular duct at each end. The upper portion of the dashboard will be canted forward and have dual cowls, another cue from the Mustang museum.

The center stack will offer either traditional stereo and HVAC controls or the MyFord Touch do-everything touch screen, available for the first time in a Mustang. After taking a drubbing in customer-satisfaction surveys, Ford is emphasizing the evolution of the MyFord Touch interface. The next-gen system debuts in the Mustang, offering redundant buttons and switchgear for those who prefer to handle real controls instead of virtual ones. The changeable ambient lighting continues, but it will spread beyond the dials, cup holders, and speakers to other points within the cabin, something also found in European luxury cars like the new S-class.
2015 Ford Mustang spy photos
Carry-Over Powertrains

At launch, the Mustang will be available with the same engine options offered by the current Mustang: a naturally aspirated 3.7-liter V-6 and the “Coyote” 5.0-liter V-8, each with the same power ratings as the Mustangs on showroom floors today (305 and 420 horsepower, respectively). Transmissions, too, will carry over at the outset, with shoppers given a choice of a six-speed manual or a six-speed automatic. That will change in the two to three years after launch, when the 10-speed auto being jointly developed with GM will replace the six-speed slushbox.

However, the Mustang’s 2015 model year will be a long one—as was 1965—and thus, Ford will offer powertrain upgrades in the months after its launch. Updates to the V-6 will be minimal, but we understand that the GT-badged “five-oh” will jump to 500 horsepower.
Turbo-Four Cafe Special

Sometime after the new Mustang reaches dealer lots, we will begin to see interesting underhood options. With European and federal fuel-economy standards in mind, Ford will introduce the first turbo*charged four-cylinder Mustang since the 1986 SVO model. And the engine will be the same size, 2.3 liters, as that car’s four-banger. It’ll generate 310 horsepower with direct injection, and it will be marketed as an uplevel alternative to the base six. Its premium should be justified not only by its expected mileage gain but also by its high, flat torque curve.

Ford is also considering offering the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6 found in the Taurus SHO. Tuned to churn out 400 horsepower (up from the 365 it makes in the SHO), this engine could potentially replace the 3.7-liter V-6 and serve as a natural steppingstone between the turbo four and the Coyote. The EcoBoost V-6 is unlikely to appear in the Mustang’s engine bay before the 2017 model year.
A Stable Full of Wild Horses

Ford has many plans for ultra-high-performance Mustangs. The first will be a successor to the Shelby-branded GT500, and the company will continue to offer Ford’s “Trinity” supercharged 5.8-liter V-8 making 662 horses. Past the new-gen Shelby GT500, Ford has additional powertrain options for two more hi-po nameplates.

The first is a twin-turbocharged V-8, code-named “Voodoo,” which displaces between 5.0 and 5.5 liters and, most intriguingly, has a “flat-plane” or 180-degree crankshaft, as Ferrari has used in its V-8s since 1973. This configuration, also found in the late Lotus Esprit V-8, is akin to connecting two four-cylinder banks to a common crankshaft. Flat cranks theoretically improve power, throttle response, and the soundtrack at the expense of greater vibration. This EcoBoost V-8 will produce between 550 and 600 horses. It will power a Shelby GT350–branded model that eventually will take over from the GT500, as Ford is desperate to discontinue that car’s costly and thirsty Trinity.

The last high-performance Mustang will be a successor to the Boss 302. What will power it is still not finalized. If all goes according to plan, Ford would like to use a naturally aspirated version of the Voodoo engine. However, initial testing has not yielded the desired results in Dearborn, and it’s possible that a hotted-up version of the 5.0 Coyote could be used—as was the case in the previous Boss.
Chassis

The introduction of an independent rear suspension, not seen in Mustangdom outside of the 1999–2004 SVT Cobra, will improve handling, ride comfort, and packaging. This should address some key Mustang criticisms and lend it credibility when taking on its European contemporaries in markets where the pony-car genre isn’t sustained by nostalgia and cheap fuel, as it is here. A new platform—code-named “S550”—will underpin this new Mustang, and through that architecture, Ford is expecting to shed some 200 pounds from the current car’s roughly 3500-pound curb weight. View Photo Gallery
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/2015-ford-mustang-leaked-360-view-and-full-details-news?src=spr_FBPAGE&spr_id=1458_28229451

Falc'man
28th October 2013, 01:19 PM
They speak from bum.

HSE2
28th October 2013, 01:29 PM
Hope those tails lights aren't accurate. Look like shit to me, like they belong in the 80s

Road_Warrior
28th October 2013, 01:42 PM
Yeah that backend doesn't sit well with the front. With the front you've got a modern, fresh, aggressive look and the rear looks like a rehash of the current model.

FTe217
28th October 2013, 01:47 PM
Yer well I just won't bother saying much now after seeing that - like the FH I'm just going to wait till I see them in the flesh for either thumbs up thumbs down.

Falc'man
28th October 2013, 01:50 PM
Yeah judging from the inaccuracy of the front I would guess the back end is out of whack as well.

WASP
30th October 2013, 03:19 PM
Information already posted.

defective
11th November 2013, 01:58 PM
Found this on instagram. Thought it was quite humorous
http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag9/jamesnst/2013-11-11085334_zps11e84a5b.png

Full Noise
11th November 2013, 03:06 PM
Well, look at the bright side. When I buy a new Stang and need a replacement headlight, it should be the same price as a Fusion, lol.

Just for the record, I like the front of the Fusion so if the new Stang looks anything like that, I’ll be happy.

I wasn’t really a huge fan of the later Mustangs, however, I have given some serious thought about buying one, either when the new ones come out or one that’s a few years old (Cobra 2001) just to have something until the GT40 is finished, which could be a long time.

I’m a big fan of the Boss MK1, 1971 to 1973. Whoever designed these must have been chewing on steroids instead of Tic Tacs. The main problem is, I was born about 20 years too late.

When you look at the Trans Am, Camaro, Dodge Challengers and Mustangs of the early seventies, they all followed the same design principles. Every one of them made a statement and that statement was FU.
They were big, long bonneted, loud and imposing, something that’s been missing for quite a while, in my opinion.

Now here’s a simple test.

Look at the picture below.

If you have no sensation below the abdomen, and couldn’t ever picture yourself driving this brutal beast on a sunny Sunday arvo, go and look into a mirror, then repeatedly bang your head against it. Then go to your local Mazda dealer and ask about the drive away price for a Mazda 2 because you’re in the wrong place here. :highly_amused:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/Fullnoise/1971-ford-mustang-mach-1_zps2aae5e85.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Fullnoise/media/1971-ford-mustang-mach-1_zps2aae5e85.jpg.html)

FTe217
14th November 2013, 01:47 PM
I'm with you all the way mate but for - IRS rear end, a Eleanor pony ride like the AU IRS but then again live axle in the wet :).....gone in 60sec didn't show much fault in the handling LOL.

Falc'man
20th November 2013, 12:19 PM
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=237&d=1344559735

FTe217
20th November 2013, 02:19 PM
Jag rear styling again.

WASP
20th November 2013, 05:08 PM
Yes it is Maurie. No doubt they (Ford) are taking a leaf out of Jag's styling book, which isn't a bad thing might I had. I think Jag are currently making some of the most attractive European cars out there.

FTe217
20th November 2013, 08:18 PM
yes agree Colville - but I'd like to see a more brutal aggressive Jag look - they have smooth flowing lines which isn't bad they do look good but more so towards a aston design is my preffered liking.
The tail light design looks great though on that pic.

Falc'man
27th December 2013, 11:02 PM
Very interesting looking back at some of the renders in this thread.