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HSE2
14th May 2014, 03:26 PM
Think I saw something in my emails about ford releasing the complete order listings for the new mustang. Anyone know anything about this?

Falc'man
14th May 2014, 10:27 PM
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http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/2015-ford-mustang-1747.html?t=1747

Falc'man
15th May 2014, 12:04 AM
Does anyone know how to calculate how much smoke will be produced when combining 275 wide tyres, line lock in 4th, and 5 x 20kg bags of cement in the boot for 45 seconds? Just round figures in cubic kilometres would be fine thanks.

FTe217
15th May 2014, 08:48 AM
haha good one Youssef above !
Thanks for all the above - will have to look closer into this in time - damn all the wheel choices, obviously depending for which models, 19x9's 9.5 then 20's even !

Perko
15th May 2014, 10:26 AM
Would be nice to have that sort of range for the Falcons.

Falc'man
15th May 2014, 11:06 AM
Do you mean options?

Perko
15th May 2014, 11:31 AM
Yeh that would be great to have that many different options. Do one of those 18's look like the ones on the Falcon preview from Sydney last year?

HSE2
15th May 2014, 12:25 PM
My head hurts.

Paxton
15th May 2014, 12:33 PM
Ford are stupid. Let's get that out of the way first. Why isn't there a 3.5 Ecoboost option? Are they worried that it will cannibalise the V8 sales?

I get the Ecoboost 4, but why not drop a smaller V6 in, and then slot the TTV6 in as the first option engine, with the V8 reserved for the GT upwards.

FTe217
15th May 2014, 12:55 PM
My head hurts.

Yer talk about "options" ! though going through more you see x only for ecoboost, then GT then only 50th - especially the staggered 20's !
Then in Fleet only a "smokers package" hehe must be a lighter/ashtray relaxative !
Heavier sway bars !
Nothing like having volume therefore "choice" - typical America.

flappist
15th May 2014, 01:08 PM
Remember this is the yank options list not ours.

We will get about 4 models with a choice of auto/manual, colour and a couple of farkles.......just like all the falcons and FPVs

Falc'man
15th May 2014, 01:33 PM
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6559&d=1400116607

flappist
15th May 2014, 01:38 PM
That makes sense. It would indicate a $55k Mustang GT tin top here.

It is interesting to note that the E4 is dearer than the V6.

Falc'man
15th May 2014, 01:44 PM
Yeah they're trying to phase out the V6. If you look at the order guides they've packed more features into the Ecoboost version so that probably reflects a little in price as well.

Falc'man
15th May 2014, 01:59 PM
That makes sense. It would indicate a $55k Mustang GT tin top here.

It is interesting to note that the E4 is dearer than the V6.
I thinker you're on the money with the GT's price. Looking at STi's price in Canada it's listed for the exact same price as the GT. The STi is listed here for just under fifty. Although a rough guide it puts it in the ballpark. $55k should be max Ford ask.

HSE2
15th May 2014, 02:04 PM
Which is XR8 money, a point not lost on people at launch.

FTe217
15th May 2014, 02:23 PM
Well I have totalled up my Canadian $ GT Premium Fastback to A$53529.00 + delivery and dealer costs.

Falc'man
15th May 2014, 03:27 PM
"50 years appearance package".... they're selling replicas from factory.

Falc'man
21st May 2014, 04:14 AM
The Wait Is Almost Over! Dealer Order Banks Now Open for All-New 2015 Ford Mustang

Ford dealers can now begin placing orders for 2015 Mustang fastback 2015 Mustang fastback includes many new standard features such as fully independent suspension, push-button start, next-generation SYNC® AppLink™ and a choice of three powerful engines All-new Mustang EcoBoost® and Mustang GT available with 50 Years Appearance Package

For Ford Mustang fans everywhere, today they are one big step closer to experiencing the next generation as Ford has begun accepting dealer orders for the 2015 fastback. Ever since the world got its first look at the all-new 2015 Mustang nearly six months ago, the anticipation has been palpable. Ford engineers have been racking up millions of testing miles, refining each system to make sure everything is just right before the first Mustangs reach customers later this year.

“From the six cities around the globe where we revealed the all-new Mustang, to auto shows to the recent 50-year celebration events, we’ve received an amazing response from people when they finally see the new model,” said Steve Ling, Ford car marketing manager. “This car is all-new with enhanced sophistication and craftsmanship, but it still exudes the essence of Mustang that’s been honed throughout its history.”

Customers can choose from three available powerplants for the 2015 Mustang, each of which can be paired with an upgraded six-speed manual or six-speed automatic transmission with paddle shifters:

All-new 2.3-liter EcoBoost®, producing more than 305 horsepower and 300 lb.-ft. of torque and with projected class-leading fuel efficiency Upgraded 5.0-liter V8, generating more than 420 horsepower and 390 lb.-ft. of torque Upgraded 3.7-liter V6, producing more than 300 horsepower and 270 lb.-ft. of torque

In addition to a sleek new design and dramatically improved cabin, each 2015 Mustang adds an array of new standard features:

Fully independent front and rear suspension for improved driving dynamics and ride quality Eight airbags including front, knee and side-impact protection for driver and front passenger Individual tire pressure monitor readouts for each wheel Rear view camera system High-intensity discharge headlamps with signature lighting Illuminated, locking glove box Leather-wrapped steering wheel with manual tilt and telescope adjustment Intelligent access, enabling the driver to enter without touching the key fob Push-button start SYNC® connectivity system with next-generation AppLink™ to control smartphone apps with simple voice commands; 4.2-inch color display and two USB ports

The ample standard equipment list can be further augmented with the availability of advanced technology features such as:

Eight-inch, high-resolution touch-screen display and navigation Blind Spot Information System with cross-traffic alert upgraded with Doppler-effect radar sensors to provide both improved sensitivity at longer distances and better resistance to false alerts Adaptive cruise control and collision warning for the first time Track Apps provide a variety of on-track performance measurements for drivers Selectable drive modes feature lets the driver quickly adjust steering, throttle response, shift control and stability control settings by toggling between normal, snow-wet, sport and track modes Mustang GT easy to use electronic line lock and a launch control system that manages engine speed and brakes, giving drivers maximum and consistent acceleration at the track

A 50 Years appearance package is available for Mustang EcoBoost Premium and Mustang GT Premium models. The appearance package includes a chrome-accented grille, round 50 Years rear badge, 19x8.5-inch alloy wheels with 255/40R19 all-season tires, anniversary floor mats and unique seat and door-trim stitching.

The 2015 Ford Mustang fastback with 3.7-liter V6 starts at just $24,425 including destination and delivery charges in the United States. Mustang will be available from Ford dealers in North America this fall.

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2014/05/20/order-banks-now-open-for-2015-ford-mustang.html

HSE2
21st May 2014, 04:36 AM
Beat me to it.

How is it they can put the product on sale yet the engine numbers still aren't confirmed after six months.

33k for the entry GT stretching to 39k for the premium.

Just under $1100 increase for the base car over the out going model.


Bit unusual in this day to see that sort of increase so Ford must be confident.

4Vman
21st May 2014, 07:16 AM
Beat me to it.

How is it they can put the product on sale yet the engine numbers still aren't confirmed after six months.

33k for the entry GT stretching to 39k for the premium.

Just under $1100 increase for the base car over the out going model.


Bit unusual in this day to see that sort of increase so Ford must be confident.

If you want to get a very good insight into Aus pricing add 50%.

This seems to be about the formula demonstrated on other US imported products.

jpd80
21st May 2014, 06:04 PM
Pretty obvious that the V6 was a late inclusion to cover entry level, daily rental fleet buyers are also averse to turbo vehicles
so a nice V6 is a good fit for that market.

Falc'man
21st May 2014, 08:19 PM
To delay the official power numbers could be setting people up for disappointment if the official numbers are below 440hp. The word is we won't be disappointed - anyone's guess what that could mean. Expectations are unrealistic from a lot of the fanboys on the internet but thankfully some with half a clue have kicked sense into them.

I'm guessing 330kW and 540Nm and sub 1600kg - performance bargain at $55k. If only there was a delete option for the power up windows.

jpd80
21st May 2014, 08:51 PM
To delay the official power numbers could be setting people up for disappointment if the official numbers are below 440hp. The word is we won't be disappointed - anyone's guess what that could mean. Expectations are unrealistic from a lot of the fanboys on the internet but thankfully some with half a clue have kicked sense into them.

I'm guessing 330kW and 540Nm and sub 1600kg - performance bargain at $55k. If only there was a delete option for the power up windows.
I recon you're spot on.
Look at what's been added to the regular GT's Coyote, better VCT, much better breathing, bigger cams charge motion on ports.
That all adds up to boss HP or more at GT V8 rpm levels. It has to be 450 hp to stay with Camaro's Gen 5 6.2 DI LT1.

Add a Boss inlet amd even bigger cams to that package and I bet your GT 350 would be making 485 Hp or more at 7400.

4Vman
21st May 2014, 08:58 PM
I recon you're spot on.
Look at what's been added to the regular GT's Coyote, better VCT, much better breathing, bigger cams charge motion on ports.
That all adds up to boss HP or more at GT V8 rpm levels. It has to be 450 hp to stay with Camaro's Gen 5 6.2 DI LT1.

Add a Boss inlet amd even bigger cams to that package and I bet your GT 350 would be making 485 Hp or more at 7400.
Its all pointing towards a highly strung "racer" which will suit the weekend warrior, the question is how will it behave at av speed of 39kph in day to day city use?

Falc'man
22nd May 2014, 08:44 AM
John's talking about the Shelby - which is the modern day HO and I'd be disappointed if it drove like a Prius or SV6.

jpd80
25th May 2014, 05:00 PM
Its all pointing towards a highly strung "racer" which will suit the weekend warrior, the question is how will it behave at av speed of 39kph in day to day city use?

I can almost guarantee that the addition of those charge motion valves on half of the inlet ports will make this version of Coyote
drive even better at lower rpms than the previous while the new mid cam VCT will gain more mid range torque, the bigger ports
will guarantee more than today's 425 HP at 6500.

One thing I forgot.... what if Ford supplies a track key with the the track pack,
I'm sure that little addition could see the Coyote turn from Doctor Jekyll into Mister Hyde.....

4Vman
25th May 2014, 05:23 PM
I can almost guarantee that the addition of those charge motion valves on half of the inlet ports will make this version of Coyote
drive even better at lower rpms than the previous while the new mid cam VCT will gain more mid range torque, the bigger ports
will guarantee more than today's 425 HP at 6500.

One thing I forgot.... what if Ford supplies a track key with the the track pack,
I'm sure that little addition could see the Coyote turn from Doctor Jekyll into Mister Hyde.....
You can guarantee if the track key makes it change tune and in that state it wont pass ADR and emissions it wont be allowed to exist on the AU Version...

HSE2
25th May 2014, 05:55 PM
John's talking about the Shelby - which is the modern day HO and I'd be disappointed if it drove like a Prius or SV6.

You are talking about the old Prius not the new sexy looking one aren't you?

HSE2
25th May 2014, 05:57 PM
To delay the official power numbers could be setting people up for disappointment if the official numbers are below 440hp. The word is we won't be disappointed - anyone's guess what that could mean. Expectations are unrealistic from a lot of the fanboys on the internet but thankfully some with half a clue have kicked sense into them.

I'm guessing 330kW and 540Nm and sub 1600kg - performance bargain at $55k. If only there was a delete option for the power up windows.

Clearly I need to read more post on this forum.

Falc'man
25th May 2014, 06:02 PM
You are talking about the old Prius not the new sexy looking one aren't you?
If I was talking about that new gorgeous work of art do you think I'd put it in the same category as the SV6?

HSE2
25th May 2014, 06:02 PM
Good point.

jpd80
25th May 2014, 06:50 PM
You can guarantee if the track key makes it change tune and in that state it wont pass ADR and emissions it wont be allowed to exist on the AU Version...
"Track Key is a 50 state emission legal aftermarket engine performance software upgrade for the 2012 - 2013 Boss 302 and Laguna Seca.

LINK (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1051784_2012-boss-mustang-track-key-detailed)
One interesting piece of technology that from the upcoming 2012 Boss Mustang that deserves a closer look is the Track Key.

Available through Ford dealers, the Track Key adds Ford's TracMode powertrain control software. The software gives the car full race calibration and two-stage launch control without negatively affecting the warranty.

The software is installed after the car is purchased, and accessed through a separate key (hence the name). Use the black key, and you get the normal "street" version of the 444-horsepower Boss. Use the red key, and the track programming takes over. Switch back to the black key, and the car goes back to street mode.

The idea here is that weekend warriors can simply use a key to switch up the car's character, using the black key to get to and from the track while using the red key during track time.

Ford says there are more than 200 engine parameters, such as spark maps and engine braking, that can be adjusted. Ford created a dual-patch powertrain control module to avoid the complexity issues that would arise with two PCMs.

This is a novel concept, and if it succeeds, we wouldn't be surprised to see aftermarket tuners try something similar. Either way, Boss owners who want to race their cars have one more factory-supplied trick up their sleeve.

Something like this would have been brilliant for GT Falcon.....

Falc'man
28th May 2014, 11:43 PM
UPDATED with this Google Sheet to calculate pricing (from ilkhan). Also attached to this post.
UPDATED with Order Guide with Prices PDF (from SeventhWard)
UPDATED with PDF containing samples of retail pricing for the various models: 2015 Mustang_Retail Price_Samples_Redacted.pdf
UPDATED with MORE BASE PRICING (from resident Ford dealer Cam):
BASE RETAIL PRICING (all base prices below include 6-Speed Manual Transmission and $825 Destination & Delivery)

Also see: Order Guide (for detailed options/packages info)

Mustang V6 Fastback (050A) - $24,425
Mustang V6 Fastback (051A) - $25,420
Mustang V6 Convertible (P8E) - $29,925

Mustang EcoBoost Fastback (100A) - $25,995
Mustang EcoBoost Premium Fastback (200A): $29,995
Mustang EcoBoost Premium Fastback (201A): $31,790
Mustang EcoBoost Premium Convertible (P8U): $35,495

Mustang GT Fastback (300A) - $32,925
Mustang GT Premium Fastback (400A) - $36,925
Mustang GT Premium Fastback (401A) - $38,720
Mustang GT Premium Convertible (P8F) - $42,425
Mustang GT 50 Year Limited Edition (500A) - $46,995


Invoice Pricing (EXCLUDES Destination and Delivery):
Mustang EcoBoost Premium Fastback (200A) - $26,910
Mustang EcoBoost Premium Fastback (201A) - $28,512
Mustang GT Fastback (300A) - $29,612
Mustang GT Premium Fastback (400A) -$33,302
Mustang GT Premium Fastback (401A) - $34,904


Packages and Options Pricing:
GT Performance Package (67G) - $2,495
EcoBoost Performance Package (67E) - $1995
50th Anniversary Package (975) - $1595
Enhanced Security Package (43S) - $395
Wheel and Stripe Package (60W) - $895 (EcoBoost)
Premier Color Accent Package (68B) $295

6-Speed Automatic Transmission (443) - $1195
Adaptive Cruise Control (52S) - $1195
Navigation (91N) - $795
Reverse Park Assist (77R) - $295
Recaros Cloth (883) - $1595
Recaros Leather (88S) - $1595
Spare Wheel/Tire (66W) - $195
Floor Mats (12A) - $95

Ruby Red - $395
Triple Yellow - $495

3.55 Diff (455) - $395
18" Painted Aluminum Wheels (641) - $155
19" Wheels - $995 (GT)
20" Machined Aluminum Wheels - $1295

Destination and delivery - $825 (included in base pricing above)


Hmm..

HSE2
29th May 2014, 01:17 AM
What are you thinking Youssef?

Falc'man
29th May 2014, 01:54 AM
The base STi is $36k in the States $49k in Aus.
SRT8 is $42k in the US, $56k in Aus.
The base GT is $33k in the States, and ?? in Aus.

Ford can afford to get in below $50k RRP here.

HSE2
29th May 2014, 02:28 AM
That would be a significant development that is sure to be a hit with Maurie.

FTe217
29th May 2014, 12:07 PM
That would be a significant development that is sure to be a hit with Maurie.

haha cheeky :)

Well its puts in perspective once again how much we all pay too much for 4wheels in this country doesn't it........
I admit I hurt paying for Falcon/local gm product above $70k (even though I could afford it but I'm a tightarse, I admit that and happy to pay what I feel its worth), putting the commi aside fpv's have lacked so much as we know compared to euro/jap gizmos (granted pay too much for them as well) but the fact of the matter is as is happenning our local product has been priced accordingly due to its local high costs hence the closures.
Imports cost as shown above "should" be far more competitive BUT that depends on how much margin Ford is willing not to grab in regards to Mustang here.
No other product for a while to compete against ? so why drop your pants early.
I expect EcoBoost to be price competitive and the 8 - well bank the margin till sales drop.

2 family members have now jumped into current SRT8's for the pricing stated above by Youssef, imo thats what there worth ! disregard F6310 as we are talking 8's thats where GT should have been as well ( I know you won't agree) :)

HSE2
29th May 2014, 01:04 PM
Oh I agree alright. You are a tight arse miserable prick. Scruge has nothing one you, tighter than a fishes ass, so tight moths refuse to breed.

Now what else did you say?

HSE2
29th May 2014, 01:12 PM
Yeah the rest I am not sure about.

There has always been a trade off with locals that cost 80k.

In recent times that price has not got worse but the cars have definitely got better.

In performance terms you have an equation where that 80k buys you are car that's not completely embarrassed by cars costing twice as much.

The trade off is a lack of features and quality.

With mustang the trade off is just a different side of the same coin.

It's packaging. It won't be as comfortable in the back seat as a c63 or you might have to send some of the luggage ahead of you but it will be cheaper, better equipped and have better quality than the compromise we have today.

I do think the pricing will be aggressive.

GTF is priced very well from factory, xr8 I would assume, in fact the entire x falcon range will be too I image.

Part of the mustang appeal is affordability. I am sure that will translate here as well.

FTe217
29th May 2014, 02:52 PM
Oh I agree alright. You are a tight arse miserable prick. Scruge has nothing one you, tighter than a fishes ass, so tight moths refuse to breed.

Now what else did you say?

I'm feeling the love - :highly_amused:

FTe217
29th May 2014, 02:55 PM
Yeah the rest I am not sure about.

There has always been a trade off with locals that cost 80k.

In recent times that price has not got worse but the cars have definitely got better.

In performance terms you have an equation where that 80k buys you are car that's not completely embarrassed by cars costing twice as much.

The trade off is a lack of features and quality.

With mustang the trade off is just a different side of the same coin.

It's packaging. It won't be as comfortable in the back seat as a c63 or you might have to send some of the luggage ahead of you but it will be cheaper, better equipped and have better quality than the compromise we have today.

I do think the pricing will be aggressive.

GTF is priced very well from factory, xr8 I would assume, in fact the entire x falcon range will be too I image.

Part of the mustang appeal is affordability. I am sure that will translate here as well.

Pretty much agree above - I'll be curious how comfortable ? Mussy actually is with the IRS, we might be surprised but its a guess for now.

4Vman
29th May 2014, 03:06 PM
My Guesses on DA pricing:

Mustang GT Fastback (300A) - $48,925
Mustang GT Premium Fastback (400A) - $56,925

Franco Cozzo
29th May 2014, 03:12 PM
I'm calling $49,990 RRP for the 2.3L so DA will be a few grand more like it always is.

5L variant will be $64,990 RRP.

4Vman
29th May 2014, 03:15 PM
I'm calling $49,990 RRP for the 2.3L so DA will be a few grand more like it always is.

5L variant will be $64,990 RRP.

There's not enough content in Mustang to ask that much, it is an XR spec product.

Franco Cozzo
29th May 2014, 03:48 PM
There's not enough content in Mustang to ask that much, it is an XR spec product.

+ Australia tax

FTe217
29th May 2014, 03:50 PM
yer I'm calling mid to high $50's for Premium 400A +...........

4Vman
29th May 2014, 03:51 PM
yer I'm calling mid to high $50's for Premium 400A +...........

Rough rule of thumb, add 50% to the US RRP.
Then add 2% for every 1c drop in the $AUD below 92c.